{"id":332456,"date":"2025-08-10T06:23:14","date_gmt":"2025-08-10T06:23:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/332456\/"},"modified":"2025-08-10T06:23:14","modified_gmt":"2025-08-10T06:23:14","slug":"liverpool-v-crystal-palace-community-shield-2025-does-winning-trophy-lead-to-good-season","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/332456\/","title":{"rendered":"Liverpool v Crystal Palace: Community Shield 2025 &#8211; does winning trophy lead to good season?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"The Community Shield trophy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/27214700-6875-11f0-8f9f-1d38db11c370.jpg\"  width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" class=\"ssrcss-11yxrdo-Image edrdn950\"\/>Image source, Getty ImagesImage caption, <\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The Community Shield is usually played between the Premier League and FA Cup winners<\/p>\n<p>Emlyn Begley<\/p>\n<p>BBC Sport journalist<\/p>\n<p>Chris Collinson<\/p>\n<p>BBC Sport statistician<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\"><b class=\"ssrcss-1xjjfut-BoldText e5tfeyi3\">Premier League champions Liverpool take on FA Cup winners Crystal Palace in the Community Shield &#8211; but would success at Wembley on Sunday indicate a successful season ahead?<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Only one of the past 14 winners of the season opener have gone on to lift the Premier League trophy at the end of the campaign.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">And what of the goalscorers?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">BBC Sport crunches the numbers of recent Community or Charity Shields to see what we can learn.<\/p>\n<p>Do Community Shield winners usually win the Premier League?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The answer to this question is surprisingly no.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">In the Premier League era, only eight of the 33 winners of the Charity or Community Shield have gone on to win the title.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">And five of those happened in a six-year spell from 2005 until 2010.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Manchester City, in 2019, were the last team to do so &#8211; and before that it was Sir Alex Ferguson&#8217;s Manchester United in 2011.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">In fact, since 1992 the teams who lose the Community Shield have won more league titles that season &#8211; 10 in total, including City for three years in a row between 2021 and 2023.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Last year City beat rivals Manchester United to win the curtain-raiser, but ended up having their worst season since 2016-17.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Some 45% of the time (15\/33) the upcoming season&#8217;s Premier League winners had not been involved in the Community Shield.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">And 55% of the time (18\/33) the Shield winners have finished above the losers in the league that season.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">On 10 occasions the two teams have finished as the top two in the Premier League &#8211; with four of those times being the Shield winners top and the losers as runners-up.<\/p>\n<p>Do Premier League winners usually win Community Shield?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The other question is how many Community Shields are won by the previous season&#8217;s Premier League winners.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The answer is 18 out of 33 times &#8211; so 55%. <\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">But a cause for optimism for Crystal Palace is that the FA Cup winners have won seven of the past 11 Shields, something that had only happened five times in the previous 22.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">And on three occasions in the Premier League era, neither the league nor cup winners have won it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Arsenal (1999 and 2023) and Manchester United (2010) qualified as Premier League runners-up and beat the Double winners in the game.<\/p>\n<p>Do Community Shield goalscorers go on to have good seasons?<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Cole Palmer\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/39945d90-71d6-11f0-bb15-e58cf64b3661.jpg\"  width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" class=\"ssrcss-11yxrdo-Image edrdn950\"\/>Image source, Getty ImagesImage caption, <\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Cole Palmer&#8217;s breakthrough season came after his 2023 Community Shield goal &#8211; albeit for a different club<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">This one is a bit of a mixed bag.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">In 2023 Cole Palmer netted for Manchester City in their game against Arsenal (a match they would go on to lose on penalties after Leandro Trossard&#8217;s injury-time equaliser).<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">He would go on to score 22 Premier League goals and be named young player of the season&#8230; for Chelsea, having joined them for \u00a342.5m.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The previous season, Darwin Nunez scored on his Liverpool debut &#8211; and Erling Haaland failed to notch on his City bow.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">That led to post-match discussion about Nunez looking the better player.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">However, Haaland went on to 52 goals that season, with Nunez netting only 15.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Kelechi Iheanacho only scored four Premier League goals after his 2021 Community Shield winner.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">But back in 2019 Raheem Sterling&#8217;s Shield strike for City against former club Liverpool kick-started the most productive season of his career (31 goals).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Image source, Getty ImagesImage caption, The Community Shield is usually played between the Premier League and FA Cup&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":332457,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4100],"tags":[94,79,16,15],"class_list":{"0":"post-332456","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-football","8":"tag-football","9":"tag-sports","10":"tag-uk","11":"tag-united-kingdom"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115003038694474029","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332456","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=332456"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332456\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/332457"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=332456"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=332456"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=332456"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}