{"id":341288,"date":"2025-08-13T13:50:11","date_gmt":"2025-08-13T13:50:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/341288\/"},"modified":"2025-08-13T13:50:11","modified_gmt":"2025-08-13T13:50:11","slug":"survey-to-determine-if-edinburgh-has-too-many-private-hire-and-rideshare-drivers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/341288\/","title":{"rendered":"Survey to determine if Edinburgh has too many private hire and rideshare drivers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>A survey to determine whether there are too many private hire cars in Edinburgh has been approved by Edinburgh councillors.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It comes after a group of taxi drivers in the capital handed over a petition to city councillors last month, asking for a review to be carried out.<\/p>\n<p>The drivers had also asked for a pause to be placed on issuing new private hire licences while the survey was carried out.<\/p>\n<p>But at Friday\u2019s meeting of the Regulatory Committee, councillors did not back a Green group amendment that would have called for that.<\/p>\n<p>According to council regulatory services head Andrew Mitchell, tendering for a survey would take about 12 weeks, and data collection would take place in the first half of 2026.<\/p>\n<p>In a deputation to the committee, city taxi driver Keith Auld told councillors: \u201cWe believe every passenger deserves a professional journey. But we are undergoing unsustainable pressure.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is not healthy competition, it is over-saturation. And it is already having real consequences. We need fair, sustainable and regulated competition.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Mr Auld and other city black cab drivers say that private hire drivers, many of whom carry out work for apps like Uber and Bolt, end up undercutting their trade.<\/p>\n<p>According to them, this comes down to the lower cost to buy and run a hire car, with the vehicles allowed for use as taxis being very expensive and requiring public hire insurance.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, fares for black cabs are set by the council, while Uber, Bolt and other private hire providers have no minimum charge.<\/p>\n<p>They also argued in their petition that due to the low incomes drivers get from those rideshare services, many of them work for dangerously long hours.<\/p>\n<p>Officers said that 2,982 private hire cars were presently operating in the capital, while 1,090 taxis were also running.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Auld said that three new private hire cars were being added in the city every day, and that the number would reach 4,000 \u201cin no time\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>After the survey is returned to councillors next year, they may consider putting a cap on the number of private hire cars allowed in the city.<\/p>\n<p>In the meeting, councillors were supportive of the idea of a survey, but the committee stopped short of supporting the temporary freeze on licence grants.<\/p>\n<p>Green councillor Susan Rae put forward an amendment that would have called for this, but Mr Mitchell said that if the committee voted for it, the law could be broken.<\/p>\n<p>He said: \u201cThere is no legal power to issue a moratorium. There would be no basis in law to refuse to consider an application on the basis of overprovision [without evidence].<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn my view, an immediate moratorium is not something that would be competent.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Liberal Democrat councillor and committee convener Neil Ross endorsed his group\u2019s motion, which called for a survey to be conducted.<\/p>\n<p>He said: \u201cIt would be helpful if we had a workshop for committee members to discuss other issues and elements of concern around the current numbers of private hire vehicles.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI would be grateful if that were factored in. I\u2019m proposing that we proceed with the consultation and overprovision survey.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m also proposing that officers are alert to concerns raised by all members of the trade who have issues around long working hours.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think this is a sensible way forward, it follows the guidance that we have been given by the Scottish Government, it is a legally robust way of approaching the question.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Labour councillor Margaret Graham put forward an amendment for the city\u2019s administration, which asked that any survey look at the number of private hire cars parked in city streets.<\/p>\n<p>Conservative councillor Joanna Mowat said: \u201cI\u2019m probably alone in this committee in having very great nervousness about interfering in the market.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere is an element with any cap that is introduced with numbers, the danger of creating protected markets.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m uncomfortable with that, from a political point of view, my natural mean is to be uncomfortable with protecting markets.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI do think the terms of the petition that has been brought here today, about the public safety element, is something that means we should probably consider this.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t for one minute think this is going to produce the information that everyone else seems to think this is going to produce.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut we\u2019re not going to know that unless we carry out an overprovision survey.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The Labour group added the Green amendment to their addendum, and the Liberal Democrat group added a portion of the administration addendum to their amendment.<\/p>\n<p>Both positions were tied, and as convener, Cllr Ross made a tiebreaking vote that saw the Liberal Democrat position win out.<\/p>\n<p>STV News is now on WhatsApp<\/p>\n<p>Get all the latest news from around the country<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.whatsapp.com\/channel\/0029VaCESJzKgsNvKKNOYO2r\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">      Follow STV News <\/a>Follow STV News on WhatsApp<\/p>\n<p>Scan the QR code on your mobile device for all the latest news from around the country<\/p>\n<p> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/whatsapp-qr.png\" alt=\"WhatsApp channel QR Code\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"A survey to determine whether there are too many private hire cars in Edinburgh has been approved by&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":341289,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8816],"tags":[748,1102,4884,712,16,15],"class_list":{"0":"post-341288","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-edinburgh","8":"tag-britain","9":"tag-edinburgh","10":"tag-great-britain","11":"tag-scotland","12":"tag-uk","13":"tag-united-kingdom"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115021783089526730","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/341288","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=341288"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/341288\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/341289"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=341288"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=341288"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=341288"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}