{"id":348283,"date":"2025-08-16T04:34:35","date_gmt":"2025-08-16T04:34:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/348283\/"},"modified":"2025-08-16T04:34:35","modified_gmt":"2025-08-16T04:34:35","slug":"italy-catches-up-with-france-on-10-year-rates-a-first-since-2008","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/348283\/","title":{"rendered":"Italy catches up with France on 10-year rates, a first since 2008"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n                            Just a month ago, we were talking here about the end of the historic spread on short-term maturities between Italy and France. Now we are back with a slightly more alarming observation: the end of the spread between 10-year bonds. And Giorgia Meloni does not intend to stop there: she is now targeting Germany.\n                    <\/p>\n<p>For a long time, Europe has been divided into a &#8220;hard core&#8221; of stable borrowers and a more fragile &#8220;periphery.&#8221; This distinction now seems outdated.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" data-zoomable=\"true\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/italiaaa.png\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"542\" height=\"431\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\nAlready, Italian 5-year debt is trading at a lower rate than France&#8217;s. And the same movement is happening in the long term.<\/p>\n<p>\nTwo dynamics are intertwined: the ongoing deterioration of France&#8217;s public finances and increased market confidence in the policies of Giorgia Meloni and her government. Meloni&#8217;s leadership is seen as a stabilizing force. With a stronger euro, investors looking for a European haven or fleeing the dollar have a new prot\u00e9g\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>\nAdmittedly, Italy has a higher debt-to-GDP ratio and France has stronger growth. But investors view their trajectories very differently. French Prime Minister Fran\u00e7ois Bayrou&#8217;s attempt to present a budget recovery plan was not enough to reassure the markets. The French political scene, which has been unstable for over a year, is a cause for concern. Without a majority, ambitious proposals for a return to a balanced budget are likely to remain dead letters.<\/p>\n<p>\nConversely, the coalition led by Fratelli d&#8217;Italia (Brothers of Italy) enjoys a solid majority. And the Italian government is working to bring its deficit back to the European target of 3%. It has fallen from 4.3% of GDP to 2.8% in one year. In France, the hope is to return to below 3% within four years \u2013 a trajectory considered too slow by the markets but, above all, difficult to achieve.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" data-zoomable=\"true\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/italia.png\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"847\" height=\"347\"\/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\nItaly-France spread on 10-year rates (Source: World Government Bonds)<\/p>\n<p>\nUntil 2022, it seemed normal for Italy to borrow at a rate 1 point higher than France. This paradigm is now shifting. At the end of 2023, Giorgia Meloni&#8217;s rise to power initially unsettled the markets. Her right-wing stance and aggressive tone initially aroused mistrust. The ongoing political instability in France and Italy&#8217;s economic reforms then made the slope increasingly steep.<\/p>\n<p>\nPerhaps we should wait and see what happens when Italy catches up with Germany on these same deadlines, with the spread below 0.9% for the first time since 2010.<\/p>\n<p>\n\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Just a month ago, we were talking here about the end of the historic spread on short-term maturities&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":348284,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5309],"tags":[2000,299,36,2441],"class_list":{"0":"post-348283","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-france","8":"tag-eu","9":"tag-europe","10":"tag-france","11":"tag-markets"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115036584475377392","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/348283","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=348283"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/348283\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/348284"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=348283"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=348283"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=348283"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}