{"id":360361,"date":"2025-08-20T21:10:27","date_gmt":"2025-08-20T21:10:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/360361\/"},"modified":"2025-08-20T21:10:27","modified_gmt":"2025-08-20T21:10:27","slug":"ukraine-security-talks-are-road-to-nowhere-says-lavrov-as-nato-chiefs-meet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/360361\/","title":{"rendered":"Ukraine security talks are \u2018road to nowhere\u2019 says Lavrov as Nato chiefs meet"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Your support helps us to tell the story<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-1uza6dc-0 cKWiEj\">From reproductive rights to climate change to Big Tech, The Independent is on the ground when the story is developing. Whether it&#8217;s investigating the financials of Elon Musk&#8217;s pro-Trump PAC or producing our latest documentary, &#8216;The A Word&#8217;, which shines a light on the American women fighting for reproductive rights, we know how important it is to parse out the facts from the messaging.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-1uza6dc-0 cKWiEj\">At such a critical moment in US history, we need reporters on the ground. Your donation allows us to keep sending journalists to speak to both sides of the story.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-1uza6dc-0 cKWiEj\">The Independent is trusted by Americans across the entire political spectrum. And unlike many other quality news outlets, we choose not to lock Americans out of our reporting and analysis with paywalls. We believe quality journalism should be available to everyone, paid for by those who can afford it.<\/p>\n<p><strong class=\"sc-1uza6dc-1 huxBsk\">Your support makes all the difference.<\/strong>Read more<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/nato\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nato<\/a> defense chiefs held a \u201ccandid discussion\u201d on Wednesday about what security guarantees they could offer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/ukraine\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ukraine<\/a> \u2013 as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/russia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Russia<\/a> warned that any talks without its participation were a \u201croad to nowhere\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Italian admiral Giuseppe Cavo Dragone, chair of Nato\u2019s military committee, said that 32 defence chiefs from across the alliance held a video conference amid a diplomatic push to end the fighting.<\/p>\n<p>He said there was a \u201cgreat, candid discussion\u201d in the call. \u201cWe are united, and that unity was truly tangible today, as always,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>Assurances that it won\u2019t be invaded again in the future are one of the keys for getting Ukraine to sign up for a peace deal with Russia. It wants Western help for its military, including weapons and training, to shore up its defences, and Western officials are scrambling to figure out what commitments they might offer.<\/p>\n<p>But Russian foreign minister <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/sergey-lavrov\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sergey Lavrov<\/a> dismissed efforts to work on security arrangements in Ukraine without Moscow\u2019s involvement.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe cannot agree with the fact that it is now proposed to resolve collective security issues without the Russian Federation. This will not work,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Firefighters-in-Odessa-after-drone-attack.png\"  loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Firefighters in Odesa tackle the aftermath of overnight attacks by Russia\" class=\"sc-1mc30lb-0 ggpMaE inline-gallery-btn\"\/><\/p>\n<p>open image in gallery<\/p>\n<p>Firefighters in Odesa tackle the aftermath of overnight attacks by Russia (State Emergency Service of Ukraine)<\/p>\n<p>He also criticised the role of European leaders who met Donald Trump and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/volodymyr-zelensky\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Volodymyr Zelensky<\/a> at the White House on Monday.<\/p>\n<p>Lavrov said Russia was in favour of \u201ctruly reliable\u201d guarantees for Ukraine and suggested these could be modelled on a draft accord that was discussed between the warring parties in Istanbul in 2022, in the early weeks of the war.<\/p>\n<p>At the time, Kyiv rejected that proposal on the grounds that Moscow would have held effective veto power over any military response to come to its aid.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am sure that in the West and, above all, in the United States, they understand perfectly well that seriously discussing security issues without the Russian Federation is a utopia, it\u2019s a road to nowhere,\u201d Lavrov said. <\/p>\n<p>He accused the European leaders who met Mr Trump and Mr Zelensky of carrying out \u201ca fairly aggressive escalation of the situation, rather clumsy and, in general, unethical attempts to change the position of the Trump administration and the president of the United States personally &#8230; We did not hear any constructive ideas from the Europeans there.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Mr Trump said on Monday that the United States would help guarantee Ukraine\u2019s security in any deal to end Russia\u2019s war there. He subsequently said he had ruled out putting US troops on the ground to do so, but Britain said it is readying its own troops to take part in a European \u201cpeace assurance\u201d force. <\/p>\n<p>Russia has repeatedly said that it would not accept Nato troops in Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>French president Emmanuel Macron has proposed a trilateral summit in Geneva. Putin\u2019s ability to travel abroad is limited because he is wanted by the International Criminal Court in The Hague on a warrant dating back to March 2023, but Switzerland intends to ask the ICC to exempt it from sanctions to allow the Russian leader in for a summit.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, attacks on civilian areas in Sumy and Odesa overnight into Wednesday injured 15 people, including a family with three small children, Ukrainian authorities said. Russian strikes also targeted ports and fuel and energy infrastructure.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/poland\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Poland<\/a>\u2019s defence minister accused Russia of again provoking Nato countries after an official said an object that landed in a cornfield may have been a Russian drone. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cOnce again, we are dealing with a provocation by the Russian Federation, with a Russian drone,\u201d Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz said. \u201cWe are dealing in a crucial moment, when discussions about peace are underway.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Reuters and AP contributed to this report<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Your support helps us to tell the story From reproductive rights to climate change to Big Tech, The&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":360362,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7654],"tags":[2000,299,657],"class_list":{"0":"post-360361","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-ukraine","8":"tag-eu","9":"tag-europe","10":"tag-ukraine"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115063149739630675","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/360361","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=360361"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/360361\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/360362"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=360361"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=360361"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=360361"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}