{"id":365917,"date":"2025-08-23T00:14:18","date_gmt":"2025-08-23T00:14:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/365917\/"},"modified":"2025-08-23T00:14:18","modified_gmt":"2025-08-23T00:14:18","slug":"germany-legend-mls-star-thomas-muller-explains-why-lionel-messi-stands-apart-from-cristiano-ronaldo-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/365917\/","title":{"rendered":"Germany legend, MLS star Thomas Muller explains why Lionel Messi stands apart from Cristiano Ronaldo"},"content":{"rendered":"<p data-testid=\"paragraph\" class=\"mb-[20px] md:mb-[30px] break-word\">The debate over who is the greatest soccer player of all time, <a href=\"https:\/\/worldsoccertalk.com\/tag\/lionel-messi\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"break-word font-articleLinkText text-articleLinkText hover:text-articleLinkTextHover hover:bg-articleLinkTextHoverBg cursor-pointer border-solid border-b-articleLinkTextHover\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Lionel Messi<\/strong><\/a> or <strong>Cristiano Ronaldo<\/strong>, has raged for nearly two decades. Now, with both legends in the twilight of their careers, the conversation is more intense than ever. And from his new home in <strong>MLS<\/strong>, <strong>Germany icon <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/worldsoccertalk.com\/tag\/thomas-muller\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"break-word font-articleLinkText text-articleLinkText hover:text-articleLinkTextHover hover:bg-articleLinkTextHoverBg cursor-pointer border-solid border-b-articleLinkTextHover\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Thomas Muller<\/strong><\/a><strong> has made it clear where he stands: Messi has the edge over Ronaldo<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p data-testid=\"paragraph\" class=\"mb-[20px] md:mb-[30px] break-word\">After more than 20 years at Bayern Munich, spanning his youth career and first-team success, <strong>Muller has joined the Vancouver Whitecaps to close out his career<\/strong>. Having faced both Messi and Ronaldo countless times at the highest level in Europe, the German star finally offered his definitive take on the debate.<\/p>\n<p data-testid=\"paragraph\" class=\"mb-[20px] md:mb-[30px] break-word\">Speaking with <a href=\"https:\/\/worldsoccertalk.com\/tag\/mls\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"break-word font-articleLinkText text-articleLinkText hover:text-articleLinkTextHover hover:bg-articleLinkTextHoverBg cursor-pointer border-solid border-b-articleLinkTextHover\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>MLS<\/strong><\/a>\u2019s official channel, Muller was asked about his past battles with Messi. Instead of focusing only on tactics, he gave a candid answer: \u201cIn the end I don\u2019t know how it worked so well. We had big defeats against Barcelona, in 2015 when they won the Champions League that was one of them, but in the end <strong>I don\u2019t know how we did it. But to be honest, for me, Messi is the greatest player we\u2019ve ever had in this sport<\/strong>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-testid=\"paragraph\" class=\"mb-[20px] md:mb-[30px] break-word\">Muller has faced Messi 10 times across his career, with famous wins such as <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/worldsoccertalk.com\/tag\/germany\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"break-word font-articleLinkText text-articleLinkText hover:text-articleLinkTextHover hover:bg-articleLinkTextHoverBg cursor-pointer border-solid border-b-articleLinkTextHover\" rel=\"noopener\">Germany<\/a>\u2019s triumphs at the 2010 and 2014 World Cups<\/strong> and <strong>Bayern\u2019s historic 8\u20132 thrashing of Barcelona<\/strong>. Despite holding the upper hand in their head-to-head record, M\u00fcller still declared the Argentine the winner in the GOAT conversation.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/WST_20250822_WST_586117_thomas-muller-bayern-munich-lionel-messi-psg-1200x675_2df8e6b3.webp&#038;width=12.webp\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" alt=\"Thomas Muller of FC Bayern Munich and Lionel Messi of Paris Saint-Germain during the UEFA Champions League round of 16 leg.\" class=\"h-auto\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"text-center mt-5 text-[14px] leading-[20px] font-normal\">Thomas Muller of FC Bayern Munich and Lionel Messi of Paris Saint-Germain during the UEFA Champions League round of 16 leg.<\/p>\n<p data-testid=\"paragraph\" class=\"mb-[20px] md:mb-[30px] break-word\">When speaking directly about the rivalry with Ronaldo, M\u00fcller acknowledged both legends but pointed out a key difference. \u201cWe always have this <a href=\"https:\/\/worldsoccertalk.com\/tag\/cristiano-ronaldo\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"break-word font-articleLinkText text-articleLinkText hover:text-articleLinkTextHover hover:bg-articleLinkTextHoverBg cursor-pointer border-solid border-b-articleLinkTextHover\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Cristiano (Ronaldo)<\/strong><\/a> and Messi discussion, <strong>but they both are crazy<\/strong>. Yeah, but Messi was a little bit more elegant,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Lionel Messi\u2019s MLS vs. Cristiano Ronaldo\u2019s SPL: Which league came out on top in new global ranking?\" href=\"https:\/\/worldsoccertalk.com\/news\/lionel-messis-mls-vs-cristiano-ronaldos-spl-which-league-came-out-on-top-in-new-global-ranking\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"article-also-read-embed\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aspect-square max-w-[100px] m-[10px] md:m-0\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/1755908058_734_image\" alt=\"Lionel Messi\u2019s MLS vs. Cristiano Ronaldo\u2019s SPL: Which league came out on top in new global ranking?\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"font-secondary my-[13px] uppercase text-alsoReadSeeAlso bg-alsoReadSeeAlsoBackground alsoReadSeeAlso w-fit\">see also<\/p>\n<p class=\"w-full line-clamp-3 md:line-clamp-2 text-alsoReadEmbedTitle font-primary alsoReadLink\">Lionel Messi\u2019s MLS vs. Cristiano Ronaldo\u2019s SPL: Which league came out on top in new global ranking?<\/p>\n<p><\/a>A change of heart for Muller<\/p>\n<p data-testid=\"paragraph\" class=\"mb-[20px] md:mb-[30px] break-word\">Just a year ago, <strong>Muller admitted that Ronaldo was Bayern Munich\u2019s biggest nemesis<\/strong>, as Real Madrid consistently came out on top against the German giants in Europe. In contrast, Muller himself holds a strong record over Messi, with seven wins compared to just three for the Argentine across club and international matches.<\/p>\n<p data-testid=\"paragraph\" class=\"mb-[20px] md:mb-[30px] break-word\">Despite this situation, Muller admitted that his view has shifted over time: \u201c<strong>I think in my first 10 years as a professional player, I always went for Cristiano<\/strong>, if there\u2019s the GOAT debate. But now I\u2019m a little bit older, a little bit more romantic, and I go more for the style than only for the performance, the work ethic, and so on and so on.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-testid=\"paragraph\" class=\"break-word\">The German also admitted that Messi\u2019s 2022 World Cup triumph tipped the scales. \u201c<strong>And after Messi won the World Cup with Argentina, I go for him<\/strong>\u2026 But, I will hunt you again,\u201d Muller joked, as one of Messi\u2019s old foes now shares the MLS stage with him.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The debate over who is the greatest soccer player of all time, Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo, has&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":365918,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5310],"tags":[4116,2000,299,1824,2746,12283,25637],"class_list":{"0":"post-365917","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-germany","8":"tag-cristiano-ronaldo","9":"tag-eu","10":"tag-europe","11":"tag-germany","12":"tag-lionel-messi","13":"tag-mls","14":"tag-thomas-muller"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115075198069842586","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/365917","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=365917"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/365917\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/365918"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=365917"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=365917"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=365917"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}