{"id":367750,"date":"2025-08-23T17:28:12","date_gmt":"2025-08-23T17:28:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/367750\/"},"modified":"2025-08-23T17:28:12","modified_gmt":"2025-08-23T17:28:12","slug":"i-am-privileged-to-be-irish-as-well-as-british-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/367750\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018I am privileged to be Irish as well as British\u2019 \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Philip Stephens\u2019s memories of childhood summer holidays in Ireland are held deep, a mix of the sights, sounds and smells of the Holyhead night-boat, crowded trains to Claremorris in Co Mayo, rush-filled fields and soda bread.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Each July, six weeks \u201cexploring the mountains, bog lands and the wild Atlantic coast\u201d lay ahead, he writes in his latest book on relations between Ireland and Britain, These Divided Isles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cFor two young boys <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/irish-in-london\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/irish-in-london\/\">growing up on a London housing estate<\/a>, Kiltimagh, a small town of a little more than a thousand people, was a wondrous place. The surrounding countryside offered hills to range across, rivers to swim in, peat bogs to get lost in. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe fog and rain were part of the fun. Meals in my grandparents\u2019 house \u2013 potatoes, gammon, soda bread \u2013 were baked in a huge grate warmed by an ever-burning turf fire,\u201d remembers the now 72-year-old Financial Times writer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The childhood stories told in These Divided Isles are no chapters from a nostalgic John Hinde history, however, but rather ones that help to explain his interest in, and understanding of, the Anglo-Irish relationship.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI am privileged to be Irish as well as British,\u201d says Stephens, who finally applied for and got his Irish passport in the 1990s, along with his children, after his mother had died.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI felt my Irishness more after she died. It just hadn\u2019t occurred to me to get one before. I suppose I wanted to honour her memory by making a bit of a statement that I am Irish, as well as British.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Raised in a then new housing estate in Kingston-upon-Thames, now a London suburb, by his Irish mother and Welsh father, Stephens never suffered from anti-Irish discrimination, noticing negativity but once.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI must have been seven or eight, so that would put it in the early-1960s, in one of the seaside towns that we used to go to \u2013 Folkestone, Hastings or Littlehampton, I don\u2019t remember which \u2013 when I saw a sign on a bed and breakfast.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Philip Stephens on 'Ned' the donkey, with his brother Paul\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/WVZVEPRPWVHAVH5TOXLYHU3AP4.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"564\"\/>Philip Stephens on &#8216;Ned&#8217; the donkey, with his brother Paul <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIt said, \u201cNo Blacks, no Irish\u201d. I don\u2019t remember it saying anything about dogs, to be honest. What I remember is \u2018No Blacks, no Irish\u2019. I remember saying to my mother, \u201cWhat\u2019s that about? Are we Irish? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI remember her saying, \u2018Oh, they\u2019re all silly. They\u2019re just silly people\u2019. And she took me away by the hand. She was obviously embarrassed by it,\u201d Stephens says, speaking in his Wandsworth home in south London.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/ireland\/social-affairs\/2024\/05\/06\/no-irish-no-blacks-no-dogs-irish-times-readers-recall-encountering-notorious-signs-in-britain\/#:~:text=%27The%20cardboard%20was%20brown%2C%20the,descending%20order%20from%20the%20top%27&amp;text=Signs%20reading%20%E2%80%9CNo%20Irish%2C%20No,capital%20from%20Waterford%20in%201955.\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u2018No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs\u2019: Irish Times readers recall seeing notorious signs in BritainOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The Troubles largely passed him by. With an English accent and an English-sounding surname, he escaped the anti-Irish discrimination prevalent in the wake of IRA bombings in England in the early-1970s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \"> With a strong Irish identity, Stephens had no doubt where he stood on IRA violence: \u201cMy mother would often remind me, nothing then or subsequently justified the merciless violence inflicted on the people of Northern Ireland.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Stephens had wanted to become a historian, but, instead, spent decades with the Financial Times as a senior correspondent, before reverting to his first love over the last few years by beginning a three-volume history on Britain\u2019s place in the world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The first volume, Britain Alone, traced Britain\u2019s path since the Suez crisis in 1956; These Divided Isles tracks its history with its nearest neighbour, Ireland; while the third, yet unwritten, volume will cover its relationship with the United States.<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"\" class=\"c-stack b-it-article-body__pullquote\" data-style-direction=\"vertical\" data-style-justification=\"start\" data-style-alignment=\"unset\" data-style-inline=\"false\" data-style-wrap=\"nowrap\">\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">During the post-2008 crash, people in Britain were really impressed by the [Irish] resilience and the willingness to take pain and to emerge from it<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Making Ireland the second volume appeared obvious to Stephens, who strongly opposed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/brexit\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/brexit\/\">Brexit<\/a> and still rails at the repeated failure of Brexiteers to understand the significance of the Irish Border.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">His feelings about the relationship between the two countries are tinged with a degree of sadness, though, especially given the heights reached, ironically, in the years immediately before the Brexit referendum.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Queen Elizabeth\u2019s 2011 visit to Ireland \u201cspoke to a deep change in mindset\u201d, with her words in Dublin Castle offering a recognition that \u201cBritain no longer saw the Republic as a backward former colony\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Yet, that soon passed in the eyes of Brexiteers, especially <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/boris-johnson\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/boris-johnson\/\">Boris Johnson<\/a>, the one who most benefited personally from it, and a man forever guilty in Stephens\u2019s eyes of \u201cignorance and duplicity\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">For them, \u201cIreland was an irritation and something that could be sorted. It certainly wasn\u2019t something that was going to be allowed to get in the way of this great project to \u2018restore\u2019 British sovereignty.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThere was a mixture of indifference, a certain contempt, too. There\u2019s always been a section of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/conservative-and-unionist-party\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/conservative-and-unionist-party\/\">Tory<\/a> party, the English nationalists\u2019 section, which has been pro-unionist, as well as anti-European,\u201d Stephens declares.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Philip Stephens with his  mother Teresa and brother Paul in Kiltimagh as one of the first bungalows in the Mayo town was being built in the 1960s\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/JEXVDQDIWFHFXCYFADBLBECD2Y.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"611\"\/>Philip Stephens with his  mother Teresa and brother Paul in Kiltimagh as one of the first bungalows in the Mayo town was being built in the 1960s <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Though his mother\u2019s experience of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/emigration\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/emigration\/\">emigration<\/a> to Britain was good, Stephens highlights the attitudes displayed often towards the Irish who had travelled across the Irish Sea from \u00c9amon de Valera\u2019s Ireland in search of work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In the eyes of London, they were cheap, willing labour, prepared to endure hardship. If little noticed by British officials, however, they were ignored entirely by the land of their birth, even when Dublin was warned about the \u201cshocking\u201d conditions many faced.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cDe Valera joined those complaining about the dire conditions faced by Irish workers in Britain. It apparently did not occur to him to ask why they were prepared to endure the hardships,\u201d says Stephens.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Nevertheless, they were put into a different category by British officials to immigrants from the Caribbean and other Commonwealth who had come, or been recruited, to fill job post-second World War job vacancies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In a report to the British cabinet in 1955, officials drew sharp distinctions between the economic and social dislocation that could be caused by \u201ccoloured\u201d immigrants, compared with the minimal impact of the Irish.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Despite history, the Irish were not \u201ca different race from the ordinary inhabitants of Great Britain\u201d, the report went on, seeing Irish workers as cheap labour that could be integrated without significant disruption or local complaint. <\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"\" class=\"c-stack b-it-article-body__pullquote\" data-style-direction=\"vertical\" data-style-justification=\"start\" data-style-alignment=\"unset\" data-style-inline=\"false\" data-style-wrap=\"nowrap\">\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">The idea that neutrality is a pillar of Irish independence no longer holds, if it ever did<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Irish emigrants showed little appetite to return home, Stephens records. In January 1958 the Irish ambassador in London, Con Cremin, challenged \u201cmany of the familiar assumptions of unskilled, low-paid and exploited workers\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The majority were so, he said, but there was another story, too, one where Irish office workers, teachers, nurses and doctors were beginning to move up the economic and social ladder. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe Irish, he said, were not thought, as with the Germans or the French, to be \u2018foreign\u2019. Rather, they were part of the family \u2013 \u2018no more alien to the English than the Welsh or Scots\u2019. Their Catholic faith was rarely held against them,\u201d writes Stephens.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In the 1990s, \u201cthe overwhelming feeling\u201d among the majority of British people after the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/belfast-agreement\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/belfast-agreement\/\">Belfast Agreement<\/a> was that the people of both countries could \u201cnow get on with being friends\u201d, freed of the baggage of history.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIt took the British a while to realise that Ireland wasn\u2019t the theocratic state it had been. Brexit, unfortunately, disturbed all that, creating a point of friction on an issue that a lot of people cared a lot about, not just in the political class,\u201d he went on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Contrary to the general belief, he now believes that the partition of the island ordered by the Government of Ireland Act in 1921 took place not because London \u201cwanted to hang on to a bit of its empire\u201d, but the very opposite.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIt wanted to get out, but it wanted to get out in a way that didn\u2019t damage its standing in the rest of the empire. The ideal for Lloyd George would have been a united Ireland, but one remaining within the Commonwealth family.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">A century later, the attitudes displayed in Britain during the Brexit referendum highlighted attitudes that will need to be understood in Ireland if the campaign for a United Ireland develops momentum in the years ahead.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cBrexit illuminated the dichotomy in the British view of Northern Ireland. One is, it wants to get rid of it. But, two, it is not going to let the Irish take it. It\u2019s a bit like the attitude to the Falklands,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Support for a United Ireland in Northern Ireland grew significantly on the back of the conduct of Johnson, with most people believing that success for the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/reform-uk\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/reform-uk\/\">Reform Party<\/a> in the 2029 Westminster elections will further fuel support.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Stephens accepts some of the predictions about such an outcome, but not all. Undoubtedly, Reform in power would be more hostile to the European Union, constantly threatening the Belfast Agreement and Brussels\/London post-Brexit deals.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">However, he is less convinced that such an administration would call, as the  Belfast Agreement lays down, a unity referendum if and when the Northern Ireland secretary of the day judges that such a referendum would pass.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/books\/bad-girls-when-the-irish-state-sought-to-ban-emigration-of-young-women-to-britain-1.4351666\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u2018Bad girls\u2019: When the Irish State sought to ban emigration of young women to BritainOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cReform would be more accommodating of unionists\u2019 hostile to unity and more defensive of the union. But that\u2019s an almost emotional impulse rather than sound strategic judgment,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Scotland will become independent before Northern Ireland votes to join with the Republic, he believes: \u201cThe more often I go to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/scotland\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/scotland\/\">Scotland<\/a>, the more I realise that it really feels like a different country now. It is growing apart.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/opinion\/2025\/08\/14\/scotland-shows-how-an-apparently-unstoppable-national-cause-can-stall-when-mishandled-by-one-party\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Newton Emerson: &#8216;Scotland shows how an apparently unstoppable national cause can stall when mishandled by one party&#8217;Opens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In the wake of the Brexit differences, Stephens believes that some of the damage to Anglo-Irish relations of the last decade can be undone. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThere is less indifference, there is a lot less condescension. There is a respect, if a grudging respect sometimes, that Ireland has emerged as a strong economic force,\u201d says Stephens.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cDuring the post-2008 crash, people in Britain were really impressed by the resilience and the willingness to take pain, as it were, and to emerge from it. People in Britain were really struck by that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">However, new points of division on the horizon loom, including Irish attitudes on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/irish-neutrality\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/irish-neutrality\/\">neutrality<\/a>, but most especially the fact that Ireland spends less than 1 per cent of its GDP on defence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">This provokes irritation, he argues. Recalling a recent conversation with a senior British official, Stephens said the official complained with irritation that Ireland enjoys \u201ca security umbrella\u201d from Washington \u201cand, to a degree, London\u201d, without charge.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Historically, Ireland\u2019s neutrality was rooted in an understandable desire not to be linked militarily to Britain, but this is now less understandable to friendly states \u201cin a world of Putin and Russia\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He was not, he said, arguing that Ireland should join the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/north-atlantic-treaty-organisation-nato\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/north-atlantic-treaty-organisation-nato\/\">North Atlantic Treaty Organisation<\/a>, even though former neutral states Finland and Sweden did sign up after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe idea that neutrality is a pillar of Irish independence no longer holds, if it ever did,\u201d he says, and no one is arguing that Ireland should be sending troops around the world, \u201cbut you cannot be a bystander any more, those days are over\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">These Divided Isles by Philip Stephens is published by Faber<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Philip Stephens\u2019s memories of childhood summer holidays in Ireland are held deep, a mix of the sights, sounds&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":367751,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5011],"tags":[1144,128754,16,15],"class_list":{"0":"post-367750","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-northern-ireland","8":"tag-northern-ireland","9":"tag-philip-stephens","10":"tag-uk","11":"tag-united-kingdom"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115079263269436102","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/367750","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=367750"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/367750\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/367751"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=367750"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=367750"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=367750"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}