{"id":402944,"date":"2025-09-06T15:20:14","date_gmt":"2025-09-06T15:20:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/402944\/"},"modified":"2025-09-06T15:20:14","modified_gmt":"2025-09-06T15:20:14","slug":"the-tension-is-hurting-a-lot-of-people-ex-bethesda-boss-speaks-out-on-subs-like-xbox-game-pass","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/402944\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;The Tension Is Hurting a Lot of People&#8217;: Ex-Bethesda Boss Speaks Out on Subs Like Xbox Game Pass"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a class=\"scanlines\" title=\"&#039;The Tension Is Hurting a Lot of People&#039;: Ex-Bethesda Boss Speaks Out on Subs Like Xbox Game Pass 1\" href=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/2eba655ce024a\/the-tension-is-hurting-a-lot-of-people-ex-bethesda-boss-speaks-out-on-subs-like-xbox-game-pass-1.large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/the-tension-is-hurting-a-lot-of-people-ex-bethesda-boss-speaks-out-on-subs-like-xbox-game-pass-1.900.jpeg\" width=\"900\" height=\"506\" alt=\"'The Tension Is Hurting a Lot of People': Ex-Bethesda Boss Speaks Out on Subs Like Xbox Game Pass 1\"\/><\/a>Image: Push Square<\/p>\n<p>If there\u2019s anyone best placed to speak on the impact of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.purexbox.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Xbox Game Pass<\/strong><\/a>, it\u2019s ex-Bethesda boss Pete Hines, who <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gamesindustry.biz\/pete-hines-leaving-bethesda\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">left the publisher in 2023<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Hines enjoyed a wildly successful 24 years at the company, and so he saw first-hand <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pushsquare.com\/news\/2020\/09\/the_elder_scrolls_fallout_developer_bethesda_bought_by_microsoft\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the impact of Microsoft\u2019s acquisition<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And while he admitted that he\u2019s been out of the picture for a little while now, he said he saw some \u201cshort sighted decision making several years ago\u201d which \u201cseems to be bearing out the way I said\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s the full quote from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dbltap.com\/features\/24-years-bethesda-with-pete-hines\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">DBLTAP<\/a>, as part of a wider interview which also touches on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pushsquare.com\/games\/ps4\/prey\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">PREY<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pushsquare.com\/games\/ps5\/elder_scrolls_iv_oblivion_remastered\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Elder Scrolls<\/a>, and much more:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201cI&#8217;m not working in any of these companies anymore, and so I don&#8217;t assume that everything I knew while I was in the industry still holds true today. At the same time, I&#8217;m involved enough to know I saw what I considered to be some short sighted decision making several years ago, and it seems to be bearing out the way I said.<\/p>\n<p>Subscriptions have become the new four letter word, right? You can&#8217;t buy a product anymore. When you talk about a subscription that relies on content, if you don&#8217;t figure out how to balance the needs of the service and the people running the service with the people who are providing the content \u2013 without which your subscription is worth jack sh*t \u2013 then you have a real problem.<\/p>\n<p>You need to properly acknowledge, compensate and recognise what it takes to create that content and not just make a game, but make a product. That tension is hurting a lot of people, including the content creators themselves, because they&#8217;re fitting into an ecosystem that is not properly valuing and rewarding what they&#8217;re making.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Ex-Sony executive <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pushsquare.com\/news\/2025\/08\/xbox-game-pass-may-make-devs-wage-slaves-says-ex-playstation-exec\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Shawn Layden recently made similar comments<\/a> on Xbox Game Pass, arguing that it\u2019s turning developers into \u201cwage slaves\u201d. He was quick to share Hines\u2019 comments on social media, saying \u201cPete\u2019s quote nails it\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Despite a ton of discussion on the topic, Microsoft has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pushsquare.com\/news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-chime-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">always insisted<\/a> that its subscription is profitable. Although it\u2019s gone through various price increases and adjustments over the past few years, and the company obfuscates its actual profits.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" align=\"center\"><p>Pete&#8217;s quote nails it.<br \/>\ud83d\udca5\ud83c\udfae\ud83d\udcaa\ud83c\udffd\ud83d\udc99<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/xKqjKpsmNU\">https:\/\/t.co\/xKqjKpsmNU<\/a>\u2014 shawn layden \ud83c\udff3\ufe0f\u200d\ud83c\udf08\ud83c\udff3\ufe0f\u200d\u26a7\ufe0f\ud83c\uddfa\ud83c\uddf8\ud83c\uddef\ud83c\uddf5 (@ShawnLayden) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ShawnLayden\/status\/1964121619405984209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">September 6, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>PlayStation, to its credit, has consistently said <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pushsquare.com\/news\/2020\/09\/sony_wont_follow_game_pass_model_on_ps5_doesnt_believe_its_sustainable\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">it believes the Xbox Game Pass model is unsustainable<\/a>. Earlier in the generation, the organisation was put under a lot of pressure to copy the business model.<\/p>\n<p>It eventually introduced multiple tiers of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pushsquare.com\/guides\/all-ps-plus-games\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>PS Plus<\/strong><\/a>, which provide a rolling catalogue of releases, including some day one games. However, it\u2019s always resisted the temptation to devalue its own software in the service upon release.<\/p>\n<p>Industry-wide subscription spending has been up in the US recently, but it <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pushsquare.com\/news\/2025\/04\/ps-plus-xbox-game-pass-are-not-the-future-of-gaming-says-us-analyst\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">remained stagnant for several years<\/a>, despite price increases.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, we think it\u2019s probably safe to say that while Xbox Game Pass does represent great value, it\u2019s not the future of gaming, as was hypothesised at the start of the generation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text source\">[source <a class=\"external\" title=\"External Link: https:\/\/www.dbltap.com\/features\/24-years-bethesda-with-pete-hines\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dbltap.com\/features\/24-years-bethesda-with-pete-hines\" target=\"_blank\">dbltap.com<\/a>, via <a class=\"external\" title=\"External Link: https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/former-bethesda-exec-says-gaming-subscription-services-worth-jack-s-without-proper-support-for-game-developers\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/former-bethesda-exec-says-gaming-subscription-services-worth-jack-s-without-proper-support-for-game-developers\" target=\"_blank\">ign.com<\/a>]<\/p>\n<dl>\n<dt>See Also<\/dt>\n<dd class=\"first\">\n<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"img lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/1743494892_723_avatar.jpg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Sammy Barker\"\/><\/p>\n<p>As the Editor of Push Square, Sammy has over 15 years of experience analysing the world of PlayStation, from PS3 through PS5 and everything in between. He\u2019s an expert on PS Studios and industry matters, as well as sports games and simulators. He also enjoys RPGs when he has the time to dedicate to them, and is a bit of a gacha whale.<\/p>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Image: Push Square If there\u2019s anyone best placed to speak on the impact of Xbox Game Pass, it\u2019s&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":402945,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[566,806,138914,53,16,15,289],"class_list":{"0":"post-402944","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-technology","8":"tag-bethesda","9":"tag-industry","10":"tag-pete-hines","11":"tag-technology","12":"tag-uk","13":"tag-united-kingdom","14":"tag-xbox"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115158032792550563","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/402944","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=402944"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/402944\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/402945"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=402944"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=402944"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=402944"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}