{"id":407258,"date":"2025-09-08T07:33:14","date_gmt":"2025-09-08T07:33:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/407258\/"},"modified":"2025-09-08T07:33:14","modified_gmt":"2025-09-08T07:33:14","slug":"f1-manufacturers-aligned-on-v8s-but-dont-want-dual-cost-programme","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/407258\/","title":{"rendered":"F1 manufacturers aligned on V8s, but don&#8217;t want &#8220;dual-cost programme&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff says Formula 1&#8217;s engine manufacturers are aligned in principle on a future move to V8 power units, but felt it didn&#8217;t make financial sense to fast-track them before 2031.<\/p>\n<p>FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem is a driving force behind the introduction of simpler, cheaper and lighter engines for F1&#8217;s future power unit formula, and was keen to make the change as early as 2029 which would have meant just three seasons of using the hybrid engines introduced next year.<\/p>\n<p>Initial discussions on the topic took place at a meeting with F1&#8217;s current and future OEMs in Bahrain, and Ben Sulayem called for a meeting in London this Thursday to further flesh out plans.<\/p>\n<p>However, on the Saturday of the Italian Grand Prix weekend the FIA president sent a letter to the power unit manufacturers involved that the meeting had been called off and postponed until a later date, having realised that there was no widespread support for his 2029 timeline.<\/p>\n<p>Read Also:<\/p>\n<p>Per the current FIA power unit governance agreement, the proposal would have needed the support from the FIA, commercial rights holder FOM and a large majority of manufacturers. But Audi and Honda are particularly against an early switch, having just invested hundreds of millions in the five-year 2026-2030 regulations that they specifically signed up for, featuring a much bigger hybrid component than the current rules.<\/p>\n<p>Autosport understands Mercedes and Ferrari were open to a compromise of switching to new engines ahead of the 2030 season &#8211; one year earlier than planned &#8211; but didn&#8217;t back another wholesale change after just three seasons, which would have meant ramping up investment in the future engine formula alongside the expensive 2026 power unit project.<\/p>\n<p>   <img decoding=\"async\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/1757316793_764_toto-wolff-mercedes.jpg\" alt=\"Toto Wolff, Mercedes\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" loading=\"lazy\"\/> <\/p>\n<p class=\"title\">Toto Wolff, Mercedes<\/p>\n<p class=\"photographer\">Photo by: Luca Barsali &#8211; NurPhoto &#8211; Getty Images<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We are all sharing the objective to have the best possible, spectacular regulations to attract fan interest,&#8221; Mercedes chief Wolff said. &#8220;And in the end the V8 was the best consensus and had a naturally aspirated [high] revving [engine] with an energy recovery system that is still a performance differentiator. And all of that is pretty aligned with a sustainable fuel.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;And most of the OEMs said: &#8216;We don&#8217;t want to run a dual-cost programme, because it would mean we need to develop a new engine in two years.&#8217; We didn&#8217;t want that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But Wolff added that the engine manufacturers involved, which also includes Red Bull&#8217;s partner Ford, plus <a href=\"https:\/\/www.autosport.com\/f1\/news\/fia-approves-general-motors-as-2029-f1-engine-supplier\/10716258\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cadillac which is planning to produce its own power units from 2029<\/a>, were all on the same page about what F1&#8217;s way forward should be.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Now it&#8217;s about dialogue with Mohammed Ben Sulayem and with [F1 CEO] Stefano [Domenicali]. What are their expectations? And then getting all the OEMs, all the engine manufacturers at the table and say &#8216;what are we doing now?'&#8221; Wolff explained.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But there is an alignment of interest I would say. It&#8217;s really good conversations that we are having now. Very balanced and rational.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Ferrari team boss Fred Vasseur also felt that there is &#8220;no rush&#8221; to decide, given the 2026 power units haven&#8217;t even been introduced yet.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We have discussions because it&#8217;s not an easy choice,&#8221; the Frenchman added. &#8220;We can find quite soon a common project, but we are not in a rush to take a decision today or tomorrow. Tomorrow at the factory everybody is focused on 2026.<\/p>\n<p>   <img decoding=\"async\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/cars-line-up-on-the-grid-ahead.jpg\" alt=\"Cars line up on the grid ahead of the race start\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" loading=\"lazy\"\/> <\/p>\n<p class=\"title\">Cars line up on the grid ahead of the race start<\/p>\n<p class=\"photographer\">Photo by: Bryn Lennon \/ Formula 1 \/ Getty Images<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We have a couple of items where we can find a deal between all the PU manufacturers, the FIA and Formula 1. I think this is for the benefit of the F1. It makes sense to discuss and to find this kind of deal.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sauber team principal Jonathan Wheatley, whose team morphs into Audi next year, further reiterated the German brand&#8217;s position as it enters the series.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Fundamentally there were three pillars that Audi set their entrance into Formula 1 on,&#8221; he said. &#8220;One was a highly efficient engine, another one was advanced hybrid technology and sustainable fuels.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think our position has changed on that. As far as I know, we&#8217;re going to stay in that position for a very long time.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Additional reporting by\u00a0Livia Veiga<\/p>\n<p>Read Also:<\/p>\n<p>In this article<\/p>\n<p>Be the first to know and subscribe for real-time news email updates on these topics<\/p>\n<p>    Subscribe to news alerts<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff says Formula 1&#8217;s engine manufacturers are aligned in principle on a future move&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":407259,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4103],"tags":[138804,140286,4199,140285,997,707,4200,137088,4859,4858,79,16,15],"class_list":{"0":"post-407258","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-f1","8":"tag-autodromo-nazionale-monza","9":"tag-but-dont-want-dual-cost-programme-wolff","10":"tag-f1","11":"tag-f1-manufacturers-aligned-on-v8s","12":"tag-ferrari","13":"tag-formula-1","14":"tag-formula1","15":"tag-italian-gp","16":"tag-mercedes","17":"tag-sauber","18":"tag-sports","19":"tag-uk","20":"tag-united-kingdom"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115167520767491504","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/407258","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=407258"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/407258\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/407259"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=407258"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=407258"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=407258"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}