{"id":444135,"date":"2025-09-22T21:18:16","date_gmt":"2025-09-22T21:18:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/444135\/"},"modified":"2025-09-22T21:18:16","modified_gmt":"2025-09-22T21:18:16","slug":"our-child-died-and-we-feel-totally-let-down-by-investigation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/444135\/","title":{"rendered":"Our child died and we feel totally let down by investigation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u2018The current system risks allowing a cover up culture and could result in negligent staff avoiding accountability.\u2019<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/0_Liliwen-Iris-Thomas-death.jpg\" alt=\"The image shows the parents holding their baby. Rhodri looks at the child solemnly while Emily kisses the baby's head. The baby is wrapped in a white towel\" loading=\"eager\"  \/>Emily Brazier and Rodri Thomas with their baby Liliwen Iris Thomas who died 20 hours after being born at University Hospital of Wales, Cardiff(Image: PA)<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">The parents of a baby who died shortly after being born have criticised the way a Welsh health board investigated the circumstances around her death. Emily Brazier and her partner Rhodri Thomas lost baby Liliwen Iris Thomas <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.walesonline.co.uk\/news\/wales-news\/baby-died-after-mother-left-32020088\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">20 hours after her birth at the University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff on October 10, 2022.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">The couple requested a full review into Emily and Liliwen\u2019s care during their time in hospital but they claimed the health board\u2019s review wasn\u2019t independent and was undertaken by staff who worked at the hospital. The circumstances around Liliwen\u2019s death were that Emily had been given a lot of pain medication and Entonox &#8211; or gas and air &#8211; with limited supervision resulting in Emily being unaware she was giving birth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">The birth in the hospital went undiscovered for some time resulting in Liliwen suffering from a severe grade of hypoxic brain injury. Emily said what compounded her distress was that the couple were told their baby\u2019s death would be investigated by the hospital themselves. For the biggest stories in Wales first, <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.walesonline.co.uk\/newsletter-preference-centre\/?view=Solus&amp;mailingListId=aa0abd38-0db5-4492-99f3-e73baecff682&amp;utm_source=solusarticle\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">sign up to our daily newsletter<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">In England investigations into major patient safety concerns such as baby deaths are conducted by the health services safety investigations body (HSSIB) and the independent body has implemented a specific programme to investigate maternity failings known as the maternity and new-born safety investigations (MNSI).<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">In Scotland the serious adverse event reviews (SAERs) and comprehensive care reviews (CCR) must have external input from clinicians or professionals from a different health board.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">But in Wales there is no such body and cases such as Liliwen\u2019s are looked into by staff employed by the same health board who work within the same hospital where the death happened \u2013 raising concerns about their impartiality.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Not fit for purpose&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">Emily is calling for a change in the process, especially for cases in maternity failings. The coroner in Liliwen\u2019s case, Rachel Knight, listened to family concerns and appointed an independent obstetrician to prepare a report. The independent obstetric report identified additional concerns which had not been adequately addressed in the findings of the internal report.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">Emily\u2019s campaign comes at a time when maternity services across Wales are being independently reviewed, in response to concerns over the quality of care being delivered across the country, most recently exposed by a report into <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.walesonline.co.uk\/all-about\/swansea\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Swansea<\/a> Bay.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">Emily said: \u201cI don\u2019t think the current system of investigation in Wales is fit for purpose. Are we really expecting medical staff to expose failings by their own colleagues, who they potentially have close relationships with, and for them to disclose failings against their own employer?<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">\u201cThe process felt very biased from the start. I didn\u2019t know this was the way investigations were carried out until we lost Liliwen. The current system risks allowing a cover up culture and could result in negligent staff avoiding accountability.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">\u201cWe were really unhappy with the findings of the report by the <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.walesonline.co.uk\/all-about\/university-hospital-of-wales\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">University Hospital of Wales<\/a> and we ended up going back to the health board with a multitude of questions that needed answering.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">\u201cIt didn\u2019t give us justice for Liliwen. We are so grateful to the coroner for commissioning an external expert and the report the expert produced really was night and day to the one from the hospital staff.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">\u201cWe felt vindicated, after two and a half years, and finally the external report was confirmation of all the things we had been saying; that we felt had been brushed aside, about the effects that pethidine and Entonox had upon on myself and Liliwen, and its role in the death of our daughter.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">Emily said she has felt she has had to \u201cfight to get to the truth of what happened to Liliwen&#8221;. She claimed: \u201cIt shouldn\u2019t be this way for families. Many families are too tired, too broken, to ask questions or do their own research.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">\u201cThey shouldn\u2019t have to fight in any way and should be supported by an independent investigation carried out by external experts. The grief of losing your child is enough to handle without the added grief this process brings.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">Lara Bennett, senior associate at law firm Slater and Gordon, is supporting Emily and Rhodri in action against <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.walesonline.co.uk\/all-about\/cardiff\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Cardiff<\/a> and Vale University Health Board. She said: \u201cWith the current system of investigations being carried out in the very hospital that is subject to scrutiny we essentially have a system where they are marking their own homework.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">\u201cThe difference in evidence produced to the coroner in Liliwen\u2019s case from the independent obstetrics expert to that in the report from the University Hospital of Wales has really brought this into focus.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">\u201cFamilies who have endured such trauma should not have to fight for answers in the way Emily and Rhodri have. An independent investigation would really help in achieving this and in families knowing they are being supported in their quest for justice.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Deeply sorry&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">A spokesperson for the Cardiff and Vale University Health Board said: &#8220;Cardiff and Vale University Health Board reiterates its heartfelt condolences to the family of Liliwen. We are deeply sorry for their loss and remain resolute in our commitment to learning from this tragic event.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">&#8220;In response to the concerns raised we have undertaken significant measures to strengthen our approach including enhancements to staffing levels, refinement of escalation protocols, and the expansion of psychological support for both families and staff. These actions reflect our unwavering dedication to delivering care that is safe, compassionate, and transparent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">&#8220;Our commitment to openness, continuous learning, and partnership with families remains central to our ethos. We would like to reiterate our offer to meet with Liliwen\u2019s family, should they wish, to share the actions taken and to ensure their voice continues to inform and shape future service improvements.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \" data-tmdatatrack=\"content-unit\" data-tmdatatrack-type=\"paragraph\" publication=\"walesonline\">A spokesperson for the <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.walesonline.co.uk\/all-about\/welsh-government\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Welsh Government<\/a> said: \u201cWe are sorry to hear about this family\u2019s devastating experience. 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