She\u2019s inmate No. 02879-509 in Florida. But once again, Ghislaine Maxwell is holding court<\/a><\/p>\nThe ‘right kind of massage’<\/p>\n
In 2005, after Lutnick and his wife, Allison, had just moved into their newly renovated home, Epstein sent an assistant to invite the couple over for coffee.<\/p>\n
After giving them a tour of the \u201cbig living room,\u201d he led them to a room with double doors.<\/p>\n
\u201cI assumed it\u2019s the dining room,\u201d said Lutnick. \u201cAnd he opens the doors and there\u2019s a massage table in the middle of the room. And candles all around.\u201d<\/p>\n
Lutnick said he then asked Epstein how often he got massages to warrant a table in the middle of the house.<\/p>\n
\u201cAnd then he says, \u2018Every day,\u2019\u201d recalled Lutnick. \u201cAnd then, he like gets, like, weirdly close to me. And he says, \u2018And the right kind of massage.’\u201d<\/p>\n
Soon after the comment, Lutnick said, he and his wife abruptly left Epstein\u2019s mansion.<\/p>\n
In the \u201csix to eight steps\u201d it took for them to reach their residence, Lutnick said, the couple decided that he would \u201cnever be in the room with him socially, for business, or even philanthropy.\u201d<\/p>\n
Epstein has been accused of luring and grooming numerous victims, including underage girls, for sexual abuse.<\/p>\n
\u201cIf that guy was there, I wasn\u2019t going because he\u2019s gross,\u201d Lutnick said.<\/p>\n
Devine asked how other prominent men could have associated with Epstein when Lutnick could immediately sense that he was a \u201cpervert.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cDid they see it and ignore it?\u201d she asked.<\/p>\n
\u201cNo. They participated,\u201d responded Lutnick.<\/p>\n
\u201cThat\u2019s what his M.O. was,\u201d he said. “You know, ‘get a massage, get a massage.’ And what happened in that massage room, I assume, was on video. This guy was the greatest blackmailer ever. Blackmail people. That\u2019s how he had money.\u201d<\/p>\n
Rep. Robert Garcia, the top Democrat on the House Oversight committee, said on social media that Lutnick’s comments showed the need for further disclosures. “Secretary Lutnick spelled out what we already know: that some of the most powerful men across the country and world were involved in Epstein\u2019s crimes,” Garcia wrote. “We won\u2019t stop until we get the full truth.”<\/p>\n
Epstein scandal dogs Trump<\/p>\n
Trump and Epstein were friends through the 1990s and fell out in 2003 in a dispute over a Palm Beach estate, according to several accounts. Trump has said he broke with Epstein because the financier had poached staff members from his Mar-a-Lago estate.<\/p>\n
Last month, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee released pages from a \u201cbirthday book<\/a>\u201d given to Epstein on his 50th birthday with celebratory letters from his influential friends including former President Bill Clinton and one allegedly from Trump.<\/p>\nTrump\u2019s purported message, which he denies writing, was written inside the outline of a naked woman.<\/p>\n
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