{"id":489879,"date":"2025-10-11T02:28:11","date_gmt":"2025-10-11T02:28:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/489879\/"},"modified":"2025-10-11T02:28:11","modified_gmt":"2025-10-11T02:28:11","slug":"the-band-that-was-everything-lou-reed-hated-about-classic-rock","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/489879\/","title":{"rendered":"The band that was everything Lou Reed hated about classic rock"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <img width=\"1140\" height=\"855\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Lou-Reed-Musician-2000s-Guitarist-Far-Out-Magazine-F-1140x855.jpg\" class=\"attachment-single-feature size-single-feature wp-post-image\" alt=\"Lou Reed - Musician - 2000s - Guitarist\" layout=\"fill\"  style=\"object-position: 50% 50%\" loading=\"eager\" fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" \/><\/p>\n<p>(Credits: Far Out \/ Alamy)<\/p>\n<p> Fri 10 October 2025 20:27, UK <\/p>\n<p>When you\u2019ve written a masterpiece like Loaded and it has sold so few copies that it can\u2019t even be ranked by the charts, it is perhaps understandable that a bit of bitterness built up inside<a href=\"https:\/\/faroutmagazine.co.uk\/tags\/lou-reed\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\"> Lou Reed<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>While much has been said about the motives behind and causes of his barbed public persona, the simple fact of repeatedly undeserved commercial failures that befell the Velvet Underground surely stirred up a lot of vitriol. Having said that, the \u2018Sweet Jane\u2019 singer also once punched David Bowie in the face, and he was a friend.<\/p>\n<p>With this in mind, when the entire world is your enemy, it makes it all the more interesting to think of the bands that Reed selected to stick on the end of his spear of spite as the peak of his ire. His bashing of The Beatles is understandable as a ploy, his run-ins with Frank Zappa seemed to be assuaged in later years, but which band did he hate most of all until the end?<\/p>\n<p>When I recently<a href=\"https:\/\/faroutmagazine.co.uk\/mutiny-in-heaven-mick-harvey-discusses-the-story-of-the-birthday-party-a-relentless-build-up-to-an-explosion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\"> interviewed Mick Harvey of The Birthday Party<\/a> and subsequently The Bad Seeds, he mused over the pivotal influences on punk and opined, \u201cAnd The Doors, everyone always forgets to mention The Doors. They were really quite pivotal to most things, actually.\u201d From punk to prog, Harvey noted that their darkness, poetry and police attention was seminal to what followed in a lot of rock.<\/p>\n<p>Reed didn\u2019t quite share that opinion. In fact, he loathed what they represented. \u201cWe had vast objections to the whole San Francisco scene. It\u2019s just tedious, a lie and untalented,\u201d Reed asserted in a 1970s magazine feature, somewhat clobbering in the otherwise distinctive Doors with the Summer of Love movement in the Golden Gate City. <\/p>\n<p>However, he wasn\u2019t prepared to give the band some ambiguous leeway, aiming more directly at Jim Morrison and his cronies in the next beat, \u201cThey can\u2019t play, and they certainly can\u2019t write,\u201d  he said.<\/p>\n<p>In 1987, he doubled down on this criticism, opining in a PBS interview that the Los Angeles band represented everything that was wrong with the 1960s, their eerie influence thereafter proving deeply lamentable. Regarding many of the counterculture favourites, he explained that they \u201cwere just painfully stupid and pretentious, and when they did try to get, \u2018arty,\u2019 it was worse than stupid rock and roll.\u201d He then asserted, \u201cWhat I mean by \u2018stupid,\u2019 I mean, like, The Doors.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Why did he hate them so much, you wonder? Well, in many ways, they were the inverse of his output. Although Reed and Morrison both looked to get \u2018poetic\u2019 with their songwriting, their styles therein stood in direct opposition to each other. For instance, take the wild contrast between these two verses:<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>Jim Morrison \u2013 \u2018Ghost Song\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">\u201cShake dreams from your hair, my pretty child, my sweet one.<br \/>Choose the day and choose the sign of your day the day\u2019s divinity.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>Lou Reed \u2013 \u2018Street Hassle\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">\u201cShe creamed in her jeans as he picked up her means<br \/>From off of the formica topped bar.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Both, in truth, are utterly amazing songs, and the lyrics in each offer a decidedly elevated twist to the typical platitudes of a pop song, but while Morrison\u2019s poetry is Byronic by nature, Reed\u2019s is very much in<a href=\"https:\/\/faroutmagazine.co.uk\/lou-reed-lyric-book-reissue-martin-scorsese\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\"> the gutter of New York\u2019s vernacular<\/a>. And in 1970, when Reed first waged war against The Doors, one had received far more praise than the other, so perhaps his attack on his peer was a simple attempt to strong-arm some attention towards a punkier style of songwriting that he would finally benefit from in due course.<\/p>\n<p>The leathe panted posturing of The Doors inadvertently bled into prog, and he found that shackled rock towards daft, drear, middle-class ideals. In fact, his heroes of the 1970s were the one band he saw as breaking the curse. \u201cI have <a href=\"https:\/\/faroutmagazine.co.uk\/shame-charlie-steen-9-favourite-albums-list\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">always loved Raw Power<\/a>,\u201d he said of the Stooges\u2019 classic.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Adding, \u201cI like the sound \u2013 the honest sound of young guys trying to break the barrier of stilted moulded sterile rock. And they did. Great guitar and wonderful vocals from Iggy. And inspiration for young men to this day.\u201d You\u2019d be hard-pushed to say that The Doors existed in any kind of mould with strange songs that extended beyond accepted radio runtimes, but he wouldn\u2019t be alone, joining the likes of David Crosby, in thinking that they were a pretentious sham.<\/p>\n<p>Alas, in typical punk fashion, Reed also took his disdain of Morrison to despicable depths when he commented on the singer\u2019s tragic death at 27: \u201cSomebody got a phone call saying Jim Morrison had died in Paris in a bathtub. \u2018How fabulous, in a bathtub in Paris!\u2019 I had no pity at all for that silly Los Angeles person\u201d. Reed was certainly never averse to overstepping the mark.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Related Topics<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"(Credits: Far Out \/ Alamy) Fri 10 October 2025 20:27, UK When you\u2019ve written a masterpiece like Loaded&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":489880,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3936],"tags":[77,43999,269,1873,16,15],"class_list":{"0":"post-489879","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-music","8":"tag-entertainment","9":"tag-lou-reed","10":"tag-music","11":"tag-the-doors","12":"tag-uk","13":"tag-united-kingdom"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115353177545235765","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/489879","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=489879"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/489879\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/489880"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=489879"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=489879"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=489879"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}