{"id":522534,"date":"2025-10-23T15:54:13","date_gmt":"2025-10-23T15:54:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/522534\/"},"modified":"2025-10-23T15:54:13","modified_gmt":"2025-10-23T15:54:13","slug":"conservatives-complain-to-whips-about-fellow-mps-comments-on-legally-settled-people-conservatives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/522534\/","title":{"rendered":"Conservatives complain to whips about fellow MP\u2019s comments on legally settled people | Conservatives"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Conservative MPs have complained to party whips after Katie Lam said many legally settled people should be deported to make the UK \u201cculturally coherent\u201d, the Guardian has learned.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Lam, seen as a rising Tory star, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/politics\/2025\/oct\/20\/tory-mp-criticised-after-demanding-legally-settled-families-be-deported\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">said last weekend<\/a> she believed \u201ca large number of people\u201d living legally in the UK should have their right to stay revoked and \u201cgo home\u201d. \u201cWhat that will leave is a mostly but not entirely culturally coherent group of people,\u201d she told the Sunday Times.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Her remarks have triggered alarm among Tory MPs. \u201cIf we are using phrases like that we need to explain what they mean,\u201d one said. \u201cCulturally coherent: it\u2019s either dog-whistle or it\u2019s so vague it\u2019s meaningless.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201c\u2018Go home\u2019 is a chant used by people who are bigoted or racist \u2013 so we have to be very careful when using phrases like go home, when talking in particular about legal migration. Politicians, especially ones who aspire to be in leadership frontline roles, should use language that is appropriate.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">A senior Tory said: \u201cAll this time Lam has been seen as number two to Robert Jenrick. That seems to have shifted post-conference where it looks like she\u2019s now trying to take his spot on the hard right of the party. In trying to do so she has upset a lot of colleagues.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cThis is what happens when you are new to the party and don\u2019t really understand what it is about. There is a line but she has gone so far past it, it is just a dot to her.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Lam has been tipped as a future Tory leader and is seen by colleagues as a close ally of Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, and Nick Timothy, the Tory MP and former special adviser.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">A number of Conservative MPs have privately criticised Lam\u2019s remarks and the matter has been raised with party whips. A party spokesperson declined to comment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Badenoch\u2019s spokesperson said on Wednesday that Lam\u2019s comments <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/politics\/2025\/oct\/22\/deporting-legally-settled-people-broadly-in-line-conservative-policy-kemi-badenoch\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">were \u201cbroadly in line\u201d with party policy<\/a>, which was interpreted by some as an endorsement and others as a gentle rebuke.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">It is understood that Lam\u2019s comments prompted concern within Badenoch\u2019s office about \u201cfreelancing\u201d by a very junior shadow minister.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/politics\/conservatives\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Conservatives<\/a> have set out plans to retrospectively strip the right of indefinite leave to remain (ILR) from people who claim benefits, which could result in many being deported.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">There was continued confusion on Thursday about the policy, with officials providing no details on several important points and a senior shadow cabinet minister describing it inaccurately.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">James Cleverly, the shadow housing secretary, denied that the proposal involved removing ILR in the UK from people already granted it. \u201cRetrospective changes are not what we are talking about as our policy,\u201d he told Times Radio.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">However, this contradicts the party\u2019s plans on ILR, as set out <a href=\"https:\/\/publications.parliament.uk\/pa\/bills\/cbill\/59-01\/0234\/240234.pdf\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in a draft bill<\/a> from the shadow home secretary, Chris Philp. In a section titled \u201cRevocation of indefinite leave to remain in certain circumstances\u201d, it says ILR should be removed if people commit a crime, claim any kind of benefits or earn less than \u00a338,700 for six months or longer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">There is also speculation about whether Badenoch was fully aware of her party\u2019s proposals on ILR before the furore caused by Lam\u2019s interview.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">It remains unclear how the policy would work, including whether families might be split up, for example if someone with children and a spouse who has UK nationality might be stripped of their right to be in the country.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">While Tory officials say people would not lose their ILR for claiming the state pension, it is not known whether they could if they received maternity or shared parental pay.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">After Bademoch\u2019s spokesperson was unable to provide clarity at a briefing on Wednesday, there was no response to questions put to the Conservative party or to Philp.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Max Wilkinson, the Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesperson, said the Conservatives were \u201ctrying to deport people who came to the UK legally and have lived, worked and paid their taxes in the UK for years\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">He said: \u201cPeople who played by the rules \u2013 many of which were created by the Conservatives themselves \u2013 do not need to \u2018go home\u2019. This is their home.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Conservative MPs have complained to party whips after Katie Lam said many legally settled people should be deported&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":522535,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,4],"tags":[12,16,15],"class_list":{"0":"post-522534","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-uk","8":"category-united-kingdom","9":"tag-news","10":"tag-uk","11":"tag-united-kingdom"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115424294611247827","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/522534","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=522534"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/522534\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/522535"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=522534"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=522534"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=522534"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}