{"id":527258,"date":"2025-10-25T15:39:16","date_gmt":"2025-10-25T15:39:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/527258\/"},"modified":"2025-10-25T15:39:16","modified_gmt":"2025-10-25T15:39:16","slug":"germany-and-norway-promote-tkmss-new-type-212cd-to-replace-the-royal-canadian-navys-victoria-class-submarines","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/527258\/","title":{"rendered":"Germany and Norway Promote TKMS\u2019s New Type 212CD to Replace the Royal Canadian Navy\u2019s Victoria-Class Submarines"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This week, the defense ministers of <strong>Germany<\/strong> and <strong>Norway<\/strong> visited their Canadian counterpart to promote the new <strong>Type 212CD<\/strong> submarine developed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zona-militar.com\/en\/2024\/10\/03\/with-an-eye-on-the-arctic-canada-begins-the-process-to-acquire-12-new-attack-submarines-for-its-navy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">by <strong>ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS)<\/strong> as the replacement for the <strong>Royal Canadian Navy\u2019s Victoria-class<\/strong> submarines. The talks also included meetings with members of the Canadian Parliament<\/a>. According to local reports, t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.zona-militar.com\/en\/2025\/05\/10\/south-korea-doubles-down-on-its-bid-to-equip-the-royal-canadian-navy-with-its-new-kss-iii-attack-submarines\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">he selection process to determine the manufacturer of <strong>twelve new submarines<\/strong> currently has only two competitors: the German company TKMS and <strong>South Korea\u2019s Hanwha<\/strong><\/a>, whose proposal also includes additional industrial offsets that are of great interest to <strong>Ottawa<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>In direct relation to this, German Defense Minister <strong>Boris Pistorius<\/strong> stated during a press conference that negotiations are underway on a proposal that would allow Canada to receive similar offset mechanisms to sweeten the offer. In particular, Berlin is reportedly considering the acquisition of a <strong>combat management system<\/strong> produced in Canada to equip its own navy\u2019s vessels\u2014the leading candidate being <strong>Lockheed Martin Canada\u2019s CMS 330<\/strong> system.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"696\" height=\"612\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/212CD-submarine-in-front-of-the-new-shipbuilding-hall-at-thyssenkrupp-Marine-Systems-in-Kiel-de-tama.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-365149\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Additionally, Minister Pistorius revealed that TKMS itself has made offers to involve Canadian industry in the construction process of the submarines in question, or alternatively, within the <strong>supply chain<\/strong> providing the components for these vessels. Addressing questions regarding <strong>Hanwha\u2019s claims<\/strong> of being able to deliver in the short term, the German minister stated that the company is on track to <strong>increase its production rate<\/strong>, aiming to build between <strong>three and four submarines per year<\/strong> starting in 2027.<\/p>\n<p>Highlighting the strengths of the <strong>Type 212CD<\/strong>, Pistorius asserted: \u201cThe Koreans build excellent submarines, but we build better ones\u2026 The Koreans cannot offer this\u201d (editor\u2019s note: referring to the advanced stealth capabilities of the German-Norwegian candidate).<br \/>\u201cIn addition, it uses a propulsion system that allows it to remain submerged for long periods\u2014longer than the food lasts. These submarines also incorporate cutting-edge technology to counter other submarines.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" data-dominant-color=\"6f5f5d\" data-has-transparency=\"false\" style=\"--dominant-color: #6f5f5d;\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"696\" height=\"464\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/ministros-de-defensa-de-alemania-y-noruega-en-canada-jpg.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-538575 not-transparent\" \/><\/p>\n<p>From the Norwegian side, a similar approach was taken to make the <strong>Type 212CD proposal<\/strong> more attractive to the <strong>Royal Canadian Navy<\/strong>. In that regard, Defense Minister <strong>Tore Sandvik<\/strong> indicated that, as part of a potential offset agreement, <strong>Oslo<\/strong> could move forward with the acquisition of various <strong>artificial intelligence solutions<\/strong> currently being developed in Canada. He further suggested that Ottawa could even be granted <strong>access to the maintenance facility blueprints<\/strong> for the future submarines being built in <strong>Bergen<\/strong>, which would allow for significant cost savings.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zona-militar.com\/en\/2025\/10\/02\/the-german-air-force-seeks-to-strengthen-its-early-warning-capabilities-with-the-purchase-of-new-saab-globaleye-aircraft\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Finally, it is worth noting that Germany\u2019s interest in cooperation with Canada extends beyond the submarine issue. Berlin has also shown interest in <strong>Bombardier-built aircraft<\/strong>, which are later fitted with <strong>Saab\u2019s GlobalEye<\/strong> early warning system\u2014turning them into advanced airborne surveillance platforms. Beyond the defense sector, Berlin is also seeking to strengthen <strong>energy cooperation<\/strong> with Ottawa, with Minister Pistorius himself confirming that there is an intention to <strong>expand German investments in Canada<\/strong>.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Images used for illustrative purposes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-cyan-bluish-gray-background-color has-background\"><strong>You may also be interested in: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zona-militar.com\/en\/2025\/10\/17\/canada-evaluates-drastically-reducing-its-order-for-88-f-35a-fighters-from-the-u-s-while-considering-the-saab-gripen-e-f-as-an-alternative\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Canada considers drastically reducing its order for 88 F-35A fighters from the U.S. while evaluating the Saab Gripen E\/F as an alternative<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"This week, the defense ministers of Germany and Norway visited their Canadian counterpart to promote the new Type&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":527259,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5310],"tags":[943,2000,299,1824,1115],"class_list":{"0":"post-527258","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-germany","8":"tag-canada","9":"tag-eu","10":"tag-europe","11":"tag-germany","12":"tag-norway"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115435560828249986","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/527258","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=527258"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/527258\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/527259"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=527258"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=527258"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=527258"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}