{"id":56094,"date":"2025-04-28T00:28:09","date_gmt":"2025-04-28T00:28:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/56094\/"},"modified":"2025-04-28T00:28:09","modified_gmt":"2025-04-28T00:28:09","slug":"liverpool-and-man-utd-tied-on-titles-but-whos-the-greatest-club-in-england-international-sports-news","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/56094\/","title":{"rendered":"Liverpool and Man Utd tied on titles: But who\u2019s the greatest club in England? | International Sports News"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"LiverpoolA Liverpool supporter waves a flag before the English Premier League soccer match between Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur at Anfield in Liverpool, England, Sunday, April 27, 2025. (AP Photo\/Jon Super) Liverpool Draws Level with Manchester United<\/a> in League Titles, Sparks Debate Over England’s Most Successful Club<\/p>\n

Liverpool Crowned Champions, Equals Man Utd\u2019s League Record<\/p>\n

Liverpool\u2019s 2024\/25 Premier League<\/a> title win has brought their top-flight tally to 20, equaling Manchester United\u2019s long-standing record. With this triumph under new manager Arne Slot, the Reds have reignited one of English football\u2019s most enduring rivalries\u2014not just on the pitch, but in terms of silverware.
The new title brings Liverpool’s count of major honours (excluding the Community Shield) to 52, while Manchester United sits at 47. However, when Community Shields are included, both clubs sit equally on 68 trophies each, and that has sparked fresh debate over which side is truly the most successful in England.<\/p>\n

Trophy Tally Breakdown: Liverpool vs Manchester United<\/p>\n

Here\u2019s a full comparison of each club\u2019s major trophies (excluding Community Shield):
Liverpool \u2013 52 major titles
Top-flight league titles (First Division + Premier League): 20
FA Cups: 8
League Cups: 10
European Cups \/ UEFA Champions League<\/a>: 6
UEFA Cups \/ Europa League: 3
UEFA Super Cups: 4
FIFA Club World Cup: 1
Manchester United \u2013 47 major titles
Top-flight league titles (First Division + Premier League): 20
FA Cups: 13
League Cups: 6
European Cups \/ UEFA Champions League: 3
UEFA Europa League: 1
European Cup Winners\u2019 Cup: 1
UEFA Super Cup: 1
FIFA Club World Cup: 1
Intercontinental Cup: 1
Including the Community Shield
Manchester United: 21 wins (4 shared)
Liverpool: 16 wins (5 shared)
This brings both clubs to 68 titles if these are counted as major.<\/p>\n

The Community Shield Dispute: Trophy or Friendly?<\/p>\n

The inclusion of the Community Shield is where opinions diverge sharply. Some fans and pundits count it as a legitimate trophy, while others dismiss it as a glorified pre-season friendly.
The FA itself classifies it as a friendly for disciplinary reasons\u2014yellow\/red cards don’t carry over.
Before 1974, it was an invitational match that didn\u2019t always feature title-winning teams.
Matches used to be shared if tied after 90 minutes\u2014Liverpool and Man Utd both have shared Shields.
Managers are split: Guardiola calls it \u201cthe first final of the season,\u201d while some, like Mika\u00ebl Silvestre, have dismissed it as \u201cstill a pre-season game.\u201d
On Liverpool\u2019s part, the Community Shield is not displayed alongside major honours at their former Melwood training base, while Manchester United has long included it in their official tally.<\/p>\n

How the Trophy Race Shifted Over the Decades<\/p>\n

When the Premier League era began in 1992, Liverpool were far ahead 18 trophies clear of Manchester United. However, Sir Alex Ferguson’s dominance rapidly changed the picture:
From 1992 to 2013, United added 25 trophies, including 13 Premier League titles, 2 Champions Leagues, and several domestic cups.
In 2010\/11, their Premier League and Community Shield double took them ahead of Liverpool for the first time since the early 1970s.
They maintained that lead for over a decade.
Under Jurgen Klopp, Liverpool staged a significant comeback:
In his final three seasons, Liverpool won four trophies, including the 2021\/22 FA Cup and 2022 League Cup.
Their Carabao Cup win in February 2024 brought them momentarily within touching distance again.
However, United responded with an FA Cup win against Man City in May 2024, keeping them narrowly ahead.
Now, under Arne Slot, Liverpool\u2019s latest league title has genuinely drawn them level again in top-flight championships\u2014and nudged them ahead in major honours (excluding the Shield).<\/p>\n

The Race Isn\u2019t Over Yet: What Comes Next<\/p>\n

Manchester United still have a shot at reclaiming the lead this season. They\u2019ve reached the Europa League semi-finals, and a win would bring their overall trophy haul including Community Shields to 69.
The rivalry continues to evolve. While Liverpool\u2019s resurgence under Slot mirrors the rejuvenation seen under Klopp, Manchester United\u2019s fate this season could hinge on European success.
Regardless of how the Community Shield is viewed, one thing is clear: the battle for England\u2019s most decorated club remains razor-tight and far from over.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"A Liverpool supporter waves a flag before the English Premier League soccer match between Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":56095,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5008],"tags":[1121,748,29589,393,29588,4884,4198,763,98,101,1883,8467,16,15],"class_list":{"0":"post-56094","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-england","8":"tag-arne-slot","9":"tag-britain","10":"tag-community-shield","11":"tag-england","12":"tag-fa-cups","13":"tag-great-britain","14":"tag-jurgen-klopp","15":"tag-liverpool-fc","16":"tag-manchester-united","17":"tag-premier-league","18":"tag-sir-alex-ferguson","19":"tag-uefa-champions-league","20":"tag-uk","21":"tag-united-kingdom"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/114412762377241759","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/56094","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=56094"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/56094\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/56095"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=56094"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=56094"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=56094"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}