{"id":585480,"date":"2025-11-21T21:36:33","date_gmt":"2025-11-21T21:36:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/585480\/"},"modified":"2025-11-21T21:36:33","modified_gmt":"2025-11-21T21:36:33","slug":"europe-is-getting-the-620-mile-efficient-plug-in-hybrid-i-wish-we-got","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/585480\/","title":{"rendered":"Europe Is Getting The 620-Mile Efficient Plug-In Hybrid I Wish We Got"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s always fraught when I talk about Chinese vehicles here at The Morning Dump or, really, anywhere. There\u2019s an impossibility to divorcing all that comes with where the product is built from what the product is, and I\u2019m generally ok with not divorcing it. However, today, I want to talk about a product I think would do well here and, yet, a product no one can sell me.<\/p>\n<p>Just this week, Chinese automaker BYD launched its Super Hybrid ATTO 2 DM-i in Europe with a flashy drive in Barcelona, Spain. The reviews of it seem generally positive, but what I am missing is the fact that this is a PHEV with actual range, which is something that few companies seem interested in building.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-41981 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/vidframe_min_top1.png\" alt=\"Vidframe Min Top\" width=\"800\" height=\"26\"\/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-41980 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/vidframe_min_bottom1.png\" alt=\"Vidframe Min Bottom\" width=\"800\" height=\"26\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Ford is very interested in continuing to build its F-150 because that\u2019s how it makes money, but the plant that helps process aluminium for its trucks caught fire. Again. No one was hurt, which is a blessing. The same can\u2019t be said for pedestrians, who are being killed at an alarming rate. At least the Department of Transportation is starting to roll out female test dummies, which is as overdue as my copy of Northinger Abbey.<\/p>\n<p>Check Out The BYD Super Hybrid ATTO 2 DM-i<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/images-stag.jazelc.com\/uploads\/theautopian-m2en\/BYD-ATTO-2-DM-i-Exteriors-23-Large.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-243938\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/BYD-ATTO-2-DM-i-Exteriors-23-Large-1024x682.jpeg\" alt=\"Byd Atto 2 Dm I Exteriors 23 Large\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\"  \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I think we\u2019re fairly clear on our belief that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theautopian.com\/america-focusing-on-electric-cars-and-not-plug-in-hybrids-was-a-huge-mistake\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">plug-in hybrids are a good thing<\/a>, as are EREVs (the difference being that a PHEV can power the vehicle with the engine and, in an EREV, the engine only acts as a generator). The shift in interest toward EREVs seems to come from the fact that most of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theautopian.com\/americas-plug-in-hybrids-arent-good-enough\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">America\u2019s PHEVs kinda suck<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The reason is the battery. There\u2019s just not enough range for most PHEVs, with the new RAV4 finally sneaking above 50 miles of range to provide enough distance for day-to-day commuting. Most are like the Outlander, with under 40 miles from a small battery. That\u2019s not enough!<\/p>\n<p>Again, the new RAV4 PHEV and Prius PHEV are a step in the right direction, but the RAV4 is a bit on the pricier side as it\u2019s a larger vehicle. What I\u2019d love to see is something more Corolla Cross\/Honda HR-V-sized with a PHEV option and a larger battery.<\/p>\n<p>Europe is about to get this in the form of the Atto 2 DM-i, which is a boring name for a crossover with a boring derivative design, from not-so-boring Chinese automaker BYD. The company is quickly supplanting Tesla in European markets as an automaker by offering cheaper EVs and cars with engines, which Tesla is unlikely to ever do.<\/p>\n<p>The specs (WLTP) on the Atto 2 are great, with the vehicle offering 56 miles of EV-only range from an 18.3kWH blade battery. <strong>[Update:\u00a0<\/strong>Just to address the WLTP of it all, it\u2019s not possible to know the EPA range of this product exactly, but if you look at the Outlander PHEV in Europe, it gets around 80 km\/50 miles WLTP range compared to 38 miles EPA. By comparison, the Atto gets 89 km\/56 miles of range. At the same exchange, that\u2019s 43 miles for the BYD. The Outlander PHEV seems to perform worse than the average, so my guess is the BYD would be closer to 44-45 miles. <strong>-MH]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Total weighted fuel economy, if you keep it plugged in, is 156 miles. This means a total range of about 620 miles under ideal conditions. Like the Honda system, the motor is mostly acting in series, providing power to the batteries. As necessary, the 1.5-liter gas engine can power the wheels in parallel.<\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s it like? Here\u2019s what\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.autocar.co.uk\/car-review\/byd\/atto-2-dm-i\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Autocar had to say<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Take these numbers with a pinch of salt, considering my test conditions weren\u2019t totally representative of day-to-day suburban drudgery, but over the course of a demanding 90-minute loop comprising busy motorways, tight mountain passes and stop-start inner-city arteries in Spain, I drained around half the battery (circa 9kWh of energy) and took no more than a few sips out of the fuel tank.<\/p>\n<p>That equated to electricity consumption of 9.12mpkWh and fuel economy of 157mpg, which the car told me represented combined consumption\u00a0in traditional terms\u00a0of 76.3mpg.\u00a0But that\u2019s contingent on having a full battery to start with.\u00a0We will\u00a0need a few days on UK roads to really crunch the numbers.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Pricing is also competitive, with the larger-batteries Boost model coming in around \u00a328,000 in the UK, compared to a starting price of \u00a332,250 for an HR-V Hybrid.<\/p>\n<p>For many obvious reasons, it\u2019s unlikely a BYD Atto or any other Chinese brand will come to the United States in the near future. Instead of PHEVs with big batteries, we\u2019re probably just going to get hybrids.<\/p>\n<p>Ford Really Needs To Find More Aluminum Suppliers<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/images-stag.jazelc.com\/uploads\/theautopian-m2en\/cq5dam.web_.1280.1280.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-large wp-image-240208\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/cq5dam.web_.1280.1280-1024x768.jpeg\" alt=\"Cq5dam.web.1280.1280\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\"  \/><\/a>Source: Ford<\/p>\n<p>If you were curious, yes, we did just write about how a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theautopian.com\/aston-martin-isnt-looking-so-hot-you-guys\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">big fire at the Novelis plant<\/a> in lovely Oswego, New York, was so bad that it might have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theautopian.com\/why-the-death-of-americas-best-selling-electric-truck-kinda-makes-sense\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">prematurely killed the F-150 Lightning<\/a>, and was otherwise making life hard for an automaker that is seriously reliant on F-150 sales.<\/p>\n<p>It happened again, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2025\/11\/20\/another-fire-ignites-at-ford-aluminum-supplier-novelis.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">according to\u00a0CNBC<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Novelis in October said it planned to restart operations at the affected part of the plant by the end of December, an acceleration from its previous projection of resuming by the first quarter of 2026. A Novelis spokesperson said it was too soon to say if Thursday\u2019s fire would delay that timeline.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cA fire started at Novelis\u2019 Oswego, New York, plant this morning. Everyone working at the plant was safely evacuated. Multiple local fire departments responded, and the fire is now under control. Crews are still on site to ensure it is fully extinguished,\u201d the spokesperson said.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Maybe, uh, look into making sure that part of the plant isn\u2019t catching on fire all the time? Just a thought. With huge tariffs on imported aluminum, it\u2019s not exactly a fun time to be trying to source automotive-grade aluminum from anywhere else.<\/p>\n<p>The Most Dangerous Roads In America Feel Very Familiar To Me<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" style=\"background: #FFF; border: 0; border-radius: 3px; box-shadow: 0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width: 540px; min-width: 326px; padding: 0; width: calc(100% - 2px);\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DRQoiRIj5-m\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\">\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>There\u2019s a kind of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/business\/interactive\/2025\/pedestrian-deaths-surge-road-safety\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">terrifying article in\u00a0The Washington Post <\/a>this week that calls out the deadliest roads in America for pedestrians, and I used to live by two of them.<\/p>\n<p>This is always a much-debated position, and there\u2019s always a lot of fingers pointed at big SUVs with low standards for pedestrians. That\u2019s a real thing, as is distracted driving, but as a person who studied some of this in college a million years ago, my belief is that road design and transit accessibility are way bigger factors. And it\u2019s personal to me, because Houston sure comes off as one of the worst places for this.<\/p>\n<p>The Instagram post above has a graphic, and it shows Houston\u2019s Westheimer Road as the road with the most deaths in America between 2021 and 2023. Not far off is Houston\u2019s FM 1960, which is a road I spent a lot of my youth along. Both are terrible places to be pedestrians.<\/p>\n<p>From the\u00a0WaPo:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Wide roads and fast-moving vehicles \u2014 especially when combined with signs of poverty, homelessness, drug and alcohol abuse, and a lack of pedestrian-focused roadway improvements \u2014 produced a pattern of death-by-vehicle that is uniquely American, according to the investigation.<\/p>\n<p>The national data shows how the design of such roads is closely linked to the fatality rate: Those with three lanes or more are by far the most dangerous, because they enable higher speeds. Above 30 mph, fatality risk increases sharply. At 50 mph, someone\u2019s chance of survival when struck is less than 1 in 5.<\/p>\n<p>More people in these areas lack cars and are forced to walk, while many of those killed tended to be impaired and were taking risks trying to cross, the review found.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Most of that conforms to my memories of both Westheimer and FM 1960. While making cars more pedestrian-friendly in accidents and lowering speeds are obvious solutions, the road design of both corridors has always been terrible.<\/p>\n<p>NHTSA Endorses A Female Test Dummy<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-243952\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Screenshot-2025-11-21-at-8.22.26\u202fAM.png\" alt=\"Screenshot 2025 11 21 At 8.22.26\u202fam\" width=\"1056\" height=\"1472\"  \/>Image: DOT<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s some good old bipartisan government action, which is missing these days. Both Republicans and Democrats have come out in support of female test dummies. Why? Women are 73% more likely to be injured in a head-on collision and have higher fatality rates, yet not all dummies reflect that.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/story\/business\/autos\/2025\/11\/20\/u-s-transportation-department-endorses-a-female-crash-test-dummy\/87388595007\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Per\u00a0The Detroit News<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>U.S. Sens. Deb Fischer, a Republican from Nebraska, and Tammy Duckworth, a Democrat from Illinois, both released statements welcoming the female crash test dummy announcement.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAny progress here is good because there\u2019s simply no good reason why women are more likely to be injured or die in car crashes,\u201d Duckworth said.<\/p>\n<p>Fischer introduced legislation, the She Drives Act, that would require the most advanced testing devices available, including a female crash test dummy. Duckworth is a co-sponsor.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s far past time to make these testing standards permanent, which will help save thousands of lives and make America\u2019s roads safer for all drivers,\u201d Fischer said.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The goal here is to get automakers to start using these dummies, which conform more to how actual human beings are built (versus the existing \u201cHybrid III,\u201d a smaller dummy based on the male)<strong>.<\/strong> I\u2019m sure former Real World: Boston co-star and current Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy will embrace this moment of bipartisanship in a professional way in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.transportation.gov\/briefing-room\/trumps-transportation-secretary-sean-p-duffy-unveils-design-first-its-kind-advanced\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">DOT\u2019s press release on the subject<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201cThe Left doesn\u2019t want to hear it, but the science is clear: there are only two sexes \u2013 male and female. That biological fact isn\u2019t just a talking point \u2013 it\u2019s an important safety consideration when designing cars,\u201d said U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean P. Duffy.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This is a strange statement from the DOT, which serves all Americans \u2014 even weirder than Duffy\u2019s recent statement that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/travel\/airline-news\/2025\/11\/19\/dot-golden-age-of-travel-civility-campaign\/87351837007\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the way to make travel better this Thanksgiving is to dress nicer<\/a> at the airport. (I\u2019m not averse to the idea of people dressing up at the airport if they like, as it does add some romance to traveling, but if you look at the math, planes have gotten safer as flyers have gotten more casual\u2026).<\/p>\n<p>What I\u2019m Listening To While Writing TMD<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s Willie Nelson, in the best t-shirt you\u2019ve ever seen in your whole life, doing \u201cTo All The Girls I\u2019ve Loved Before\u201d featuring Julio Iglesias, performing at the CMAs in 1983.<\/p>\n<p>[Ed Note: Last month, a celebration of the 40th Anniversary of Back To The Future happened at a mall that was featured in the movie, located in the city of Industry. Friend-of-the-site Tiziano Niero went out and shot this, which I figured I\u2019d share:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Man I lave a DeLorean DMC-12! -DT]<\/p>\n<p>The Big Question<\/p>\n<p>Are we wrong about PHEVs?<\/p>\n<p>Top photo: BYD<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"It\u2019s always fraught when I talk about Chinese vehicles here at The Morning Dump or, really, anywhere. 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