{"id":589958,"date":"2025-11-24T03:00:32","date_gmt":"2025-11-24T03:00:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/589958\/"},"modified":"2025-11-24T03:00:32","modified_gmt":"2025-11-24T03:00:32","slug":"trump-quite-pleased-with-ukraine-peace-talks-as-europe-reportedly-issues-counterproposal-to-russia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/589958\/","title":{"rendered":"Trump &#8216;quite pleased&#8217; with Ukraine peace talks as Europe reportedly issues counterproposal to Russia"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>U.S. President Donald Trump is &#8220;quite pleased&#8221; with the progress made at ongoing peace talks in Geneva, Switzerland, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Nov. 23, as Europe reportedly issued a counterproposal to a U.S.-backed peace plan that heavily favored Russia.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Today \u2014 and we&#8217;ve talked to (Trump) since \u2014 I think he&#8217;s quite pleased at the reports we&#8217;ve given him about the amount of progress that&#8217;s been made,&#8221; Rubio <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/z4DF6w-Rmq0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">told<\/a> reporters in Switzerland.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think we all recognize that part of getting a final end to this war will require for <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/tag\/ukraine\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ukraine<\/a> to feel that it is safe and it is never going to be invaded or attacked again,&#8221; he added.<\/p>\n<p>Trump earlier in the day criticized Ukraine and <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/tag\/europe\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Europe<\/a> for their handling of the peace process as the U.S. intensifies efforts to broker a deal.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Ukraine leadership has expressed zero gratitude for our efforts, and Europe continues to buy oil from Russia,&#8221; Trump <a href=\"https:\/\/truthsocial.com\/@realDonaldTrump\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">wrote<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Rubio noted the peace plan is a &#8220;living, breathing document&#8221; and is still subject to change as <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/tag\/peace-negotiations\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">peace talks<\/a> continue.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Just because it&#8217;s printed on a piece of paper doesn&#8217;t indicate finality, so you get input, and based on that input, you make adjustments, and then you get more input,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Trump, on Nov. 22, said the initial peace proposal was not Washington&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/trump-says-new-us-peace-plan-not-final-offer-to-ukraine\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">final offer<\/a> to Ukraine amid widespread concern that Ukraine was being rushed into an unfavorable agreement.<\/p>\n<p>The initially imposed deadline of Nov. 27 could also be extended by several days, Rubio said, adding that he feels &#8220;optimistic&#8221; that a consensus will be reached &#8220;in a very reasonable period of time, very soon.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Whether it&#8217;s Thursday, whether it&#8217;s Friday, whether it&#8217;s Wednesday, whether it&#8217;s Monday of the following week, we want it to be soon, because people are going to die,&#8221; Rubio said.<\/p>\n<p>Trump has previously said that Ukraine must make a decision by Thanksgiving Day in the U.S., which falls on Nov. 27.<\/p>\n<p>Amid talks in <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/ukraine-says-us-considers-kyivs-priorities-amid-peace-talks-in-geneva-as-trump-rants-about-ukraine-europe\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Geneva<\/a>, Europe has reportedly issued a counterproposal to the initial 28-point peace plan, which was widely criticized for favoring Russia.<\/p>\n<p>Reuters <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/business\/finance\/full-text-european-counter-proposal-us-ukraine-peace-plan-2025-11-23\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reported<\/a> that the counterproposal would see Ukraine&#8217;s military capped at 800,000 troops in peacetime rather than 600,000 in the initial peace plan.<\/p>\n<p>Ukraine joining NATO falls on consensus among the alliance&#8217;s members, which does not exist, the reported proposal stipulates, while also prohibiting <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/tag\/nato\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">NATO<\/a> from permanently stationing troops on the territory of Ukraine under its command in peacetime.<\/p>\n<p>The new <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/28-points-later-why-trumps-latest-peace-plan-for-ukraine-is-different\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">peace proposal<\/a> drops recognition of Russia&#8217;s occupation of Ukraine&#8217;s territories. The initial plan stipulated that Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts, which make up the Donbas region, would be internationally recognized as belonging to Russia.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;All civilian detainees and hostages will be returned, including children,&#8221; the proposed peace plan stipulates, as reported by Reuters.<\/p>\n<p>The counterproposal also calls for U.S.\u2014backed <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/tag\/security-guarantees\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">security guarantees<\/a> that mirror NATO&#8217;s Article 5, which, when invoked, considers an attack on one member an attack on all members. NATO&#8217;s Article 5 is a defining feature of the alliance.<\/p>\n<p>Several Ukrainian concessions are retained in the counterproposal, which allows Russia to rejoin the Group of Eight, which currently operates as the <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/tag\/g7\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Group of Seven<\/a> without Moscow&#8217;s participation.<\/p>\n<p>Europe&#8217;s counterproposal, as reported by Reuters, also sees the <a href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/tag\/zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant<\/a> fall under international control, with produced electricity divided between Ukraine and Russia.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"kg-bookmark-container\" href=\"https:\/\/kyivindependent.com\/state-secretary-rubio-in-the-hot-seat-after-telling-senators-the-28-points-is-a-russian-plan-us-is-passing-along\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/p>\n<p>Rubio facing scrutiny after telling US senators that 28-point plan is a Russian proposal passed along to Ukraine<\/p>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"U.S. President Donald Trump is &#8220;quite pleased&#8221; with the progress made at ongoing peace talks in Geneva, Switzerland,&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":589959,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[12,26],"class_list":{"0":"post-589958","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-world","8":"tag-news","9":"tag-world"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115602445014496382","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/589958","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=589958"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/589958\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/589959"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=589958"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=589958"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=589958"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}