{"id":592066,"date":"2025-11-25T04:02:24","date_gmt":"2025-11-25T04:02:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/592066\/"},"modified":"2025-11-25T04:02:24","modified_gmt":"2025-11-25T04:02:24","slug":"updated-peace-plan-could-be-a-deal-ukraine-will-take-eventually","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/592066\/","title":{"rendered":"Updated peace plan could be a deal Ukraine will take &#8211; eventually"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">That new document likely incorporates at least some of the amendments proposed by the Europeans and published by Reuters news agency that point to something far more palatable for Kyiv.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">In that version, an automatic veto on future Ukrainian Nato membership is gone &#8211; as well as a cap on troop numbers for the country&#8217;s armed forces.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">It says no Western troops would be deployed to Ukraine permanently, but that&#8217;s not an all-out ban.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">On the sensitive question of territory \u2013 land Ukrainian soldiers have been fighting and dying to defend for 11 years \u2013 there would be no handover of the rest of the Donbas region to Russia for free, and Ukraine would aim to recover occupied areas through exclusively diplomatic means. That&#8217;s something Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky previously accepted. <\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The full amnesty for war crimes is deleted, too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">But most critically, there&#8217;s reference to security guarantees.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Several officials, including the UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, have talked about Ukraine getting Article 5-style protection, meaning the US would be bound to come to its defence if Russia ever invaded again.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">That&#8217;s the key issue which Ukraine says it can&#8217;t negotiate on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">We don&#8217;t know how many of these European ideas have made it into the new proposal, but Germany&#8217;s Chancellor Friedrich Merz calls the deal &#8220;significantly modified&#8221; \u2013 in a positive sense.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">So how did we get from a pro-Russian deal to this in just a day? It&#8217;s hard to be sure, with US hawks like President Trump&#8217;s envoy Steve Witkoff in the room.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The initial Kremlin-friendly plan was rooted in Witkoff&#8217;s own visit to Russian President Vladimir Putin this spring, when he returned quoting Russia&#8217;s controversial narratives almost verbatim.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Instead, this plan seems like something Ukraine might sign up to \u2013 eventually.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Which must be why Trump has gone from berating officials in Kyiv, again, for supposedly showing him &#8220;zero gratitude&#8221;, to proclaiming that &#8220;something good&#8221; may be coming.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">But how good? There is still no sign that Russia is ready to give up fighting unless it&#8217;s forced to.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">&#8220;Putin is much more self-confident militarily, right now,&#8221; Tatiana Stanovaya of the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center believes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">She points to a corruption scandal and political crisis in Kyiv, problems mobilising soldiers there, and military gains for Russian forces on the ground \u2013 all driving Putin&#8217;s thinking.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">At best, some suggest Trump&#8217;s demand for a deal has injected new momentum into efforts to find peace, which Ukrainians, under fire, desperately want.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">But it&#8217;s hard to escape the sense that these days of frantic diplomacy have only brought us back to where we started<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">&#8220;Russia&#8217;s position is, &#8216;we have laid out our demands, so do you take them or not?&#8217; Stanovaya said. &#8220;&#8216;If so, we will stop the war \u2013 if not, we&#8217;ll just wait until you&#8217;re ready.'&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"That new document likely incorporates at least some of the amendments proposed by the Europeans and published by&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":592067,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[13,12,14],"class_list":{"0":"post-592066","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-news","8":"tag-headlines","9":"tag-news","10":"tag-top-stories"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115608351087542265","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/592066","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=592066"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/592066\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/592067"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=592066"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=592066"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=592066"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}