{"id":641726,"date":"2025-12-19T06:44:21","date_gmt":"2025-12-19T06:44:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/641726\/"},"modified":"2025-12-19T06:44:21","modified_gmt":"2025-12-19T06:44:21","slug":"mum-baffled-smacking-children-was-legal-as-wales-reviews-ban","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/641726\/","title":{"rendered":"Mum &#8216;baffled&#8217; smacking children was legal as Wales reviews ban"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Cemlyn Davies,Wales political correspondentand<\/p>\n<p>Angela Ferguson,BBC Wales<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1765806376_309_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 gUePlo hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/a8a7c920-dc2e-11f0-854f-613aec88e40b.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"eager\" alt=\"Mari Ellis Dunning A woman with long blonde hair is smiling while holding a young boy and a baby boy. They are sitting by a mini train. The older boy is smiling and wearing a red Disney-themed Christmas jumper and the baby has a Christmas tree-style woollen hat.\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hLdNfA\"\/>Mari Ellis Dunning<\/p>\n<p>Mum-of-two Mari Ellis Dunning says the fact that smacking was ever legal &#8220;baffles&#8221; her<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">A mother-of-two says she is &#8220;baffled&#8221; that smacking a child was ever legal in Wales, nearly three years on from a ban being introduced.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Mari Ellis Dunning, 32, said she sought &#8220;to meet my kids with compassion before anything else&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Hundreds of parents have been sent on out-of-court parenting courses since the smacking ban was introduced in March 2022, according to a Welsh government report, and &#8220;fewer than five&#8221; cases had since been referred to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), with no convictions. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">But opponents of the ban said it was &#8220;diverting police from serious crime and placing unnecessary strain on social services&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">According to the Welsh government review, the aim of the act was to &#8220;protect children&#8217;s rights whilst adopting an educating and preventative approach which avoids criminalising parents&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">It showed 365 people were referred for out-of-court parenting support by police staff between April 2022 and March 2025, instead of facing prosecution.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Of those referred to the service, 310 completed the course with 265 reporting a positive outcome.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Data from three of Wales&#8217; four police forces revealed 6,200 physical punishment cases since the act was implemented.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">This was up from 3,900 before the so-called smacking ban.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">However, the report found no one in Wales had been convicted of common assault or battery on a child in their care since the ban came into force.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1765806376_309_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 gUePlo hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/a8dad0f0-dc37-11f0-a665-27b3eb61cb96.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Mari Ellis Dunning A woman with long blonde hair is smiling while holding a little boy with short blonde hair.\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hLdNfA\"\/>Mari Ellis Dunning<\/p>\n<p>Mari says she and her husband use compassion to find out what their children&#8217;s needs are before addressing any issues<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Mari, who lives in Aberystwyth with her sons aged two and five, said for children to grow up to become well-regulated adults &#8220;how can you possibly teach them that by physically harming them&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;I don&#8217;t know why I would ever feel the need to physically harm a child,&#8221; said Mari.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">The ban saw the <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/uk-wales-60781395\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 iCaRzc\" rel=\"noopener\">removal of reasonable chastisement<\/a> as a legal defence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">This means anyone who smacks a child in their care in Wales can be arrested and prosecuted for assault.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Wales&#8217; Social Justice Cabinet Secretary Jane Hutt said the ban was &#8220;something we must be very proud of&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1765806376_309_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 gUePlo hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/dd7cac60-dc38-11f0-a665-27b3eb61cb96.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Antonia Merola Jones A woman with long brown hair and wearing a dark top is smiling. A plant, window and cream-coloured curtains can be seen behind her.\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hLdNfA\"\/>Antonia Merola Jones<\/p>\n<p>Antonia Merola Jones from Flintshire in north Wales says she wishes the ban could be adopted in England <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Antonia Merola Jones, a single parent-of-one from Mold, Flintshire, said the ban should also be in force across the border.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;I was delighted to see it introduced in Wales and I&#8217;m proud that we have such a great approach to tackling this problem,&#8221; she said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;I just want to see it widely introduced. I think England should learn from Wales and potentially introduce this across the border too.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Antonia, who is head of marketing and communications for a university, said physical punishment offered no proven benefits and created a risk of harm.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">She added she felt public support in ending that punishment of children was strong, which was backed up by the review reporting &#8220;a general trend towards disapproval of physical punishment&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;Growing up in the 1980s, smacking was accepted but now it is very much frowned upon,&#8221; said Antonia.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Positive parenting techniques&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Frontline services had reported that &#8220;positive parenting techniques and awareness from parents and carers is increasing&#8221;, the report said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Although &#8220;some professionals such as the police reported an increase in time-consuming processes&#8221; as a consequence of the legislation, such challenges had been &#8220;partially mitigated&#8221;, it added.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">The data shows the aim of the act &#8220;is being realised in practice&#8221;, the review says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Cabinet secretary for Social Justice Jane Hutt said the review &#8220;shows the law is embedding well&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;I thank all of those who played their part in this legislation&#8230;because this is something that we must be very proud of.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">However, Simon Calvert from the Be Reasonable campaign group who opposed the ban said: &#8220;This law is costing the taxpayer millions, diverting police from serious crime and placing unnecessary strain on social services.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;Instead of focusing on neglect and abuse, professionals are being drawn into intrusive investigations of ordinary, loving families.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">He said it was &#8220;impossible to reconcile the Welsh government&#8217;s claim that implementation is &#8216;progressing well&#8217; with the data it has produced&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Sociologist and Be Reasonable supporter Dr Ashley Frawley said &#8220;being investigated for assaulting your child is huge&#8221;, adding it would go on a person&#8217;s record, even without prosecution.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Dr Frawley, from the Centre for Parenting Culture Studies at the University of Kent, added that authoritative parenting &#8220;often uses smacking as a back-up method combined with a lot of love&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;The vast majority of parents know the difference between beating a child and a light tap,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">NSPCC chief executive Chris Sherwood said the &#8220;trailblazing work&#8221; in Wales had &#8220;changed public opinion and improved social services&#8217; ability to safeguard children&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;The report further echoes the unequivocal evidence that physical punishment is harmful, ineffective and damages the trust and wellbeing at the heart of family relationships,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">He said the charity questioned why England and Northern Ireland were &#8220;lagging behind&#8221;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Cemlyn Davies,Wales political correspondentand Angela Ferguson,BBC Wales Mari Ellis Dunning Mum-of-two Mari Ellis Dunning says the fact that&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":641727,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5010],"tags":[748,4884,16,15,1764],"class_list":{"0":"post-641726","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-wales","8":"tag-britain","9":"tag-great-britain","10":"tag-uk","11":"tag-united-kingdom","12":"tag-wales"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115744891830486458","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/641726","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=641726"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/641726\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/641727"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=641726"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=641726"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=641726"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}