{"id":643949,"date":"2025-12-20T09:11:22","date_gmt":"2025-12-20T09:11:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/643949\/"},"modified":"2025-12-20T09:11:22","modified_gmt":"2025-12-20T09:11:22","slug":"maga-infighting-over-israel-and-2028-heats-up-at-the-turning-point-usa-conference","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/643949\/","title":{"rendered":"MAGA infighting over Israel and 2028 heats up at the Turning Point USA conference"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"anchor-b174fa\" class=\"body-graf\">PHOENIX \u2014 For a second day in a row, a long-brewing internal fight among MAGA influencers spilled onto the stage of Turning Point USA&#8217;s first annual conference since the September slaying of Charlie Kirk, the organization&#8217;s co-founder. <\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-4ae838\" class=\"body-graf\">Podcaster Ben Shapiro, speaking on the AmericaFest convention&#8217;s opening night Thursday, ripped into right-wing broadcasters Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Candace Owens and Megyn Kelly, as well as white nationalist Nick Fuentes.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-cc332c\" class=\"body-graf\">At the core of his argument is a case that Owens has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2025\/12\/16\/politics\/candace-owens-erika-kirk-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">peddled conspiracy theories<\/a>, without objection from Kelly and other prominent conservatives, about Kirk&#8217;s assassination. Those theories include suggestions that <a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2025\/12\/16\/us-news\/inside-candace-owens-sadistic-and-dangerous-world\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">foreign governments \u2014 including Israel&#8217;s<\/a> \u2014 and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/media\/piers-morgan-confronts-candace-owens-over-charlie-kirk-conspiracy-theories-tense-interview\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">employees of Turning Point USA<\/a> could have been involved. Prosecutors in Utah have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/justice-department\/doj-weighs-novel-federal-hate-crimes-case-charlie-kirks-alleged-killer-rcna248549\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">charged Tyler Robinson<\/a>, 22, in the killing and are seeking the death penalty. He has yet to enter a plea.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-731bf7\" class=\"body-graf\">&#8220;The conservative movement is also in danger from charlatans who claim to speak in the name of principle but actually traffic in conspiracism and dishonesty,&#8221; Shapiro said. &#8220;Those of us with a microphone have a moral obligation to call that out by name.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-1181fc\" class=\"body-graf\">He condemned Carlson for hosting Fuentes \u2014 whom he called &#8220;a Hitler apologist, Nazi-loving, anti-American piece of refuse&#8221; \u2014 and Bannon for &#8220;maligning people that he disagrees with&#8221; by accusing them of &#8220;loyalty to a foreign country.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-d15b5a\" class=\"body-graf\">Bannon fired back on Friday night from the same stage, accusing Shapiro of wanting to take over Turning Point USA and putting Israel&#8217;s interests ahead of the United States. <\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-fe5304\" class=\"body-graf\">&#8220;Ben Shapiro is like a cancer, and that cancer spreads,&#8221; Bannon said to cheers from the crowd of thousands at the Phoenix Convention Center.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-163898\" class=\"body-graf\">The back-and-forth amounts to a flashpoint among conservative  influencers over U.S. policy toward Israel and a sign that leaders of the MAGA movement are jockeying for power as President Donald Trump\u2019s final term progresses and the next presidential election nears.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-a88e3d\" class=\"body-graf\">\u201cThis is a proxy on \u201928,\u201d Bannon, who was a top adviser to Trump during the 2016 campaign and the early days of his first term, said Friday night, adding that Kirk was an opponent of &#8220;this concept of greater Israel and Israel first.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-46a166\" class=\"body-graf\">In the months before his death, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/donald-trump\/israel-iran-conflict-splits-maga-leaving-trump-navigate-rcna212786\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kirk at times questioned<\/a> America&#8217;s backing for some of Israel&#8217;s policies. He asked his followers on X in June whether the U.S. should &#8220;get involved in Israel&#8217;s war against Iran.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-e5b2d0\" class=\"body-graf\">The issue has divided the MAGA base for much of the last year.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-351904\" class=\"body-graf\">&#8220;There was a rift even before we lost Charlie,&#8221; Kelly said Friday night during a conference talk with conservative influencer Jack Posobiec, &#8220;and it revolves around Israel.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-8d1c9b\" class=\"body-graf\">Carlson responded in his own remarks Thursday night to the AmericaFest audience by questioning the appropriateness of Shapiro using the forum to try to cow people with whom he disagrees.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-e52573\" class=\"body-graf\">&#8220;To hear calls to deplatform,&#8221; Carlson said Thursday, &#8220;at a Charlie Kirk event?&#8221; <\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-677c63\" class=\"body-graf\">He repeated several times, &#8220;I am not an antisemite&#8221; and ultimately urged the attendees to unify rather than divide.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-f9d241\" class=\"body-graf\">Kelly responded to Shapiro&#8217;s calling her a coward during her conversation with Posobiec.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-94e958\" class=\"body-graf\">&#8220;I found it kind of funny that Ben thinks he has the power to decide who gets excommunicated from the conservative movement,&#8221; Kelly said. &#8220;It reminded me when the girl who was the head of our middle school chorus told me she was going to take all of my friends away from me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-2c7e92\" class=\"body-graf\">And, noting that Shapiro had called her a friend, Kelly said, &#8220;I don\u2019t think we are friends anymore.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-76a21a\" class=\"body-graf\">Several attendees said in interviews that they believe it&#8217;s healthy for leaders who disagree to express themselves, even as they lined up on one side or the other.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-0eb4ec\" class=\"body-graf\">&#8220;I think there\u2019s a lot larger split,&#8221; said Scott Whitely, who was attending the conference from Oregon. &#8220;I think if anything, Israel has their issues as well, just like the USA does. And I think if anything, though America, if anything, needs to pray for the land of Israel and the people of Israel.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-b0f5d2\" class=\"body-graf\">Taylor Winston of Nashville, Tennessee, said he also believes the battle among conservative luminaries is part of a proxy war over Israel.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-be70ed\" class=\"body-graf\">&#8220;I do think it creates more divide,&#8221; Winston said of Shapiro&#8217;s message in an interview with NBC News. &#8220;A lot of people are trying to choose a side.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-f2280c\" class=\"body-graf\">He added that he wants &#8220;full transparency in what happened with Charlie Kirk.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-531c8d\" class=\"body-graf\">Despite the bitterness, Posobiec said in a brief exchange with NBC News before his sit-down with Kelly that there is an upside for AmericaFest and Turning Point USA in the rhetorical warfare.<\/p>\n<p id=\"anchor-f92bcf\" class=\"endmark body-graf\">&#8220;I thought it was great,&#8221; Posobiec said. &#8220;Got a lot of clicks.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"PHOENIX \u2014 For a second day in a row, a long-brewing internal fight among MAGA influencers spilled onto&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":643950,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5311],"tags":[49,978,659],"class_list":{"0":"post-643949","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-united-states","8":"tag-united-states","9":"tag-us","10":"tag-usa"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/115751123882288895","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/643949","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=643949"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/643949\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/643950"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=643949"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=643949"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=643949"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}