{"id":84300,"date":"2025-05-08T09:56:10","date_gmt":"2025-05-08T09:56:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/84300\/"},"modified":"2025-05-08T09:56:10","modified_gmt":"2025-05-08T09:56:10","slug":"patients-arent-even-looking-at-drug-price-list-says-gp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/84300\/","title":{"rendered":"Patients Aren\u2019t Even Looking At Drug Price List, Says GP"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>PUTRAJAYA, May 8 \u2014 At least one private general practitioner (GP) says his patients have largely ignored the medicine price list at his clinic, raising questions about the usefulness of the price transparency policy.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Dr Shah Jahan Abdul Khalim \u2013 a GP who runs Poliklinik Seri Mas in Cheras, Kuala Lumpur \u2013 said his clinic has already displayed medicine prices in compliance with the Price Control and Anti-Profiteering (Price Marking for Drug) Order 2025 that came into effect May 1. But patients have not shown any interest in the price list.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s a <a href=\"https:\/\/pharmacy.moh.gov.my\/sites\/default\/files\/document-upload\/faq-pemaparan-harga-ubat-30.4.25-update-v2.0.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Q&amp;A booklet by KKM<\/a>. It\u2019s a bit tedious but there\u2019s supposed to be four columns \u2013 one is the generic name of the medicine, one is the pharmacological name, the price per unit, and the price we are selling. So, there are four columns. We wrote everything down.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe printed out everything and placed it in a transparent folder at the reception counter \u2013 we have over 300 medicines, injections, everything,\u201d Dr Shah Jahan told CodeBlue during a <a href=\"https:\/\/codeblue.galencentre.org\/2025\/05\/doctors-hold-historic-protest-against-kpdns-jurisdiction-over-drug-price-display\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">doctors\u2019 rally<\/a> last Tuesday against the Domestic Trade and Cost of Living Ministry\u2019s (KPDN) jurisdiction over drug price display.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut so far, it has been a week and no one has even looked at it. They (patients) don\u2019t even ask what it is.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey just come, register, go in for consultation, pick up their medicine, pay, and leave. This is the relationship we have with our patients \u2013 it\u2019s transparent. They trust us. They come to us, we treat them, we discuss the diagnosis, do everything in a transparent manner, and they are happy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dr Shah Jahan added that most of his GP friends who have complied with mandatory price display similarly found that their patients didn\u2019t bother looking at the lists of medicine prices.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo I don\u2019t understand why we need to do it. But it\u2019s okay, we can follow whatever is in the guidelines. But using Act 723 (Price Control and Anti-Profiteering Act 2011) to implement and take action against GPs is a big no for us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The historic demonstration by more than 700 private GPs and specialists in Putrajaya expressed support for price transparency, but called for the drug price display mandate to be placed under the Ministry of Health\u2019s (MOH) jurisdiction instead of the Domestic Trade and Cost of Living Ministry (KPDN).<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"660\" height=\"440\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Shah-Jahan-at-rally_May-6-2025.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-58191\"  \/>Dr Shah Jahan Abdul Karim, a private general practitioner (GP) who runs a clinic in Kuala Lumpur, participates in a doctors\u2019 rally in Putrajaya on May 6, 2025, against the Domestic Trade and Cost of Living Ministry\u2019s (KPDN) jurisdiction over mandatory drug price display under the Price Control and Anti-Profiteering Act 2011 (Act 723). Photo by Sam Tham for CodeBlue.<\/p>\n<p>Dr Shah Jahan said GPs are not against price transparency, but object to KPDN\u2019s enforcement of the price display mandate under Act 723.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019re okay with price transparency. We\u2019ve always told patients before we prescribe \u2013 \u2018this is how much it will cost. Are you okay with that?\u2019\u201d he said. \u201cBut we have a problem with Act 723. We\u2019re not comfortable with a different agency coming in to mingle in our business.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf they use Act 586 (Private Healthcare Facilities and Services Act 1998) instead, we will comply. We just don\u2019t want other people coming in, doing inspections, and taking action. That\u2019s what we\u2019re not comfortable with.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He added that implementing the drug price list is burdensome for small GP clinics. \u201cWe have to print the prices, update from time to time \u2013 it takes away from our clinical work. Most doctors are in their 50s or 60s. You can\u2019t expect them to be IT-savvy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dr Shah Jahan runs his clinic with his father; the practice employs two staff and a cleaner.<\/p>\n<p>Private health care facilities routinely face inspections under Act 586 from the Private Medical Practice Control Section (CKAPS) at the MOH.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/codeblue.galencentre.org\/2025\/05\/lawyers-only-kpdn-can-enforce-drug-price-display-not-moh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">CodeBlue previously reported three lawyers as saying<\/a> that the MOH lacks the legal authority (\u201cpunca kuasa\u201d) to enforce the drug price display order that can only be enforced by KPDN, as the domestic trade and cost of living minister\u2019s power under Section 3 of Act 723 is \u201cnon-delegable\u201d or cannot be transferred to another minister.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>\u2018We Are Not Retailers\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"660\" height=\"414\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Big-price-transparency-banner.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-58172\"  \/>Doctors gather at a rally in Putrajaya on May 6, 2025, to protest the Domestic Trade and Cost of Living Ministry\u2019s (KPDN) jurisdiction over mandatory drug price display under the Price Control and Anti-Profiteering Act 2011 (Act 723). Photo by Sam Tham for CodeBlue.<\/p>\n<p>Dr Balachandran Krishnan \u2013 a GP with a special interest in occupational health from Poliklinik Cahaya in Brickfields and Pandan Perdana, Kuala Lumpur \u2013 said the issue is not about price display per se, but about how it is enforced.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe don\u2019t mind drug price transparency, but the way they implement it is very important because we are not retailers \u2013 we are a service industry,\u201d Dr Balachandran told CodeBlue during the protest.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe already have a comprehensive law under PHFSA. Act 586 is strong enough. Now there\u2019s another one, and we\u2019re finding it very, very difficult.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dr Balachandran noted that GPs are already regulated by multiple government bodies; the addition of KPDN makes matters worse. \u201cWe are facing too many regulators. With KPDN, it\u2019s the fifth or sixth ministry. It\u2019s just too much.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He said KPDN\u2019s enforcement approach is inappropriate for the health care setting: \u201cWhen KPDN officers go into retail shops, the way they behave is different. If they walk into a GP clinic the same way as a workshop, there will be a problem. It\u2019s not nice. We are professionals. We want the government to treat us as professionals.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/codeblue.galencentre.org\/2025\/04\/doctors-scornful-of-kpdn-video-enforcing-car-workshop-price-display\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">CodeBlue previously reported<\/a> doctors\u2019 derision at a KPDN video showing price display enforcement at a car service workshop. KPDN\u2019s TikTok video was filled with memes, including a movie scene showing cigarette smoking.<\/p>\n<p>Dr Balachandran also highlighted stagnant consultation fees as a deeper frustration behind the rally. \u201cFor 33 years, our consultation fees have not been reviewed. Nasi lemak prices have gone up. Everything has gone up \u2013 but not GP fees,\u201d he said. \u201cWe\u2019re suffering.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe don\u2019t want to do this sort of thing, but we\u2019ve been pushed to a corner. We have no choice.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>GPs\u2019 consultation fees under Schedule 7 of Act 586 have been capped at RM10 to RM35 for more than three decades.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><strong>TPAs Restricting Doctors\u2019 Dispensing Rights, Says Klang GP\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"660\" height=\"454\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Doctors-rally-with-vests.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-58193\"  \/>Doctors gather at a rally in Putrajaya on May 6, 2025, to protest the Domestic Trade and Cost of Living Ministry\u2019s (KPDN) jurisdiction over mandatory drug price display under the Price Control and Anti-Profiteering Act 2011 (Act 723). Photo by Sam Tham for CodeBlue.<\/p>\n<p>Dr Sarah (pseudonym) \u2013 who has been in general practice for nearly three decades and owns two GP clinics in Klang and Kota Damansara, Selangor \u2013 said GPs have accepted the price display requirement, but are increasingly burdened by overlapping regulations and stagnant income.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis latest order with price displays, we have no issues with that,\u201d said Dr Sarah. \u201cBut we want them to address the first issue (consultation fees) first because that is what makes us sustainable as we are on our own. We don\u2019t have anyone backing us up.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cRight now, we are subjected to all sorts of regulations from many different agencies \u2013 with e-invoicing, rentals going up, everything going up but our consultation fees remaining stagnant. We can\u2019t raise it because it has not been gazetted yet.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOn top of that, the consultation rate for Malaysian private general practitioners is also one of the lowest in the Asean region.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She added: \u201cAll this while we\u2019ve been regulated by CKAPS. Now, we are answerable to so many agencies and that\u2019s our problem. If we don\u2019t speak out now, there\u2019ll be more things coming out when our main issue hasn\u2019t been dealt with.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dr Sarah said the medicine price display policy comes at a time when private GPs are already struggling to stay afloat amid rising costs and lower patient volumes.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe last couple of years have been a bit slow for all of us in terms of the number of patients because firstly the number of clinics have been mushrooming\u2026 it\u2019s as if there is no control from the relevant authorities,\u201d she said. \u201cBy right, there should be a zoning system so that there is no overpopulation of clinics in any particular area.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She added that the poor economy has also affected patient numbers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe current economy is not so good, so we are receiving less patients. Our overhead keeps on increasing. That\u2019s the problem. Our rental, utilities, even the cost of medication \u2013 every year it keeps rising. It just feels like they are adding more burden on us day by day.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"660\" height=\"429\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Arasu-speech-at-rally.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-58197\"  \/>Malaysian Medical Association president-elect Dr R. Arasu speaks at a doctors\u2019 rally in Putrajaya on May 6, 2025, to protest the Domestic Trade and Cost of Living Ministry\u2019s (KPDN) jurisdiction over mandatory drug price display under the Price Control and Anti-Profiteering Act 2011 (Act 723). Photo by Sam Tham for CodeBlue.<\/p>\n<p>Dr Sarah also noted that some third-party administrators (TPAs) have stopped GPs from dispensing long-term medications.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSome of the big TPAs now do not allow us to supply medication to our patients anymore,\u201d she said. \u201cWe\u2019re just allowed to examine and prescribe. Patients have to go to pharmacies appointed by TPAs to collect their meds \u2013 and sometimes the pharmacies are far away.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She believes the move is driven by cost-cutting and raised concerns that TPAs\u2019 influence in the health care system is growing unchecked.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI presume that the TPAs want to increase their revenue. That is why they have appointed\u00a0 designated pharmacies themselves. Patients now have to go to two different places to get their prescription and then get their medication,\u201d Dr Sarah told CodeBlue, requesting anonymity.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPatients do complain but it can\u2019t be helped. Wouldn\u2019t it be easier for patients to get everything under one roof? By right, it should be all about simplifying the process of getting treatment for our patients. Maybe this is the beginning of dispensing separation?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOn top of that, TPAs in Malaysia are not 100 per cent regulated. Over the years, TPAs have been adding administrative fees for doctors. Some are charging a fixed amount per bill, some are deducting up to 10 per cent of our total claims. One particular TPA is even charging doctors up to RM5,000 per clinic if we want to apply to be a panel with them. The TPAs are maximising their revenue at every level.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"PUTRAJAYA, May 8 \u2014 At least one private general practitioner (GP) says his patients have largely ignored the&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":84301,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4315],"tags":[22585,32354,105,4326,32356,16,15],"class_list":{"0":"post-84300","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-medication","8":"tag-drug-price-display","9":"tag-general-practitioner-gp-clinics","10":"tag-health","11":"tag-medication","12":"tag-ministry-of-health","13":"tag-uk","14":"tag-united-kingdom"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/114471618840905904","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84300","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=84300"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84300\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/84301"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=84300"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=84300"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=84300"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}