{"id":127904,"date":"2025-08-08T02:24:12","date_gmt":"2025-08-08T02:24:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/127904\/"},"modified":"2025-08-08T02:24:12","modified_gmt":"2025-08-08T02:24:12","slug":"how-the-tsp-funds-are-faring-in-this-period-of-market-volatility-and-what-investors-are-doing-with-their-money","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/127904\/","title":{"rendered":"How the TSP funds are faring in this period of market volatility, and what investors are doing with their money"},"content":{"rendered":"

Terry Gerton <\/strong>So Art, the stock market\u2019s had a rough start in 2025, but it bounced back strongly. For someone who\u2019s got money in the TSP, how should they be thinking about the ups and downs of the stock markets?<\/p>\n

Art Stein <\/strong>I think it\u2019s very important for people who are invested in the TSP to realize that the ups and downs of the stock market are guaranteed. It\u2019s just a very up and down investment. So the G Fund is extremely popular because it never goes down, it just goes up a little bit each year. Well, when you look at the US stock funds and the international stock fund, they naturally go up and down a lot. So if we look at the C Fund, which is the most popular of the stock funds, it\u2019s an S&P 500 index fund. And in the first three months of the year, not surprisingly, given what was going on, it was down 4% in three months, and the S Fund was down 8.9%, which was a really big decline. And as a result, people started pulling money from the C Fund and putting it in the G Fund during that quarter. And we can see the percentage invested in the C Fund go down, which was too bad because then they missed out on these great returns in the second quarter when just for that three-month period, the C Fund was up 11%, the S Fund was up 12%, extraordinarily good returns. So looking at the first six months of the year, combining those two, the C Fund\u2019s up 6% and the S Fund\u2019s up 2%. Another thing to point out is that the two least popular funds, which is the F Fund and the I Fund, did extremely well. The I Fund in the first six months of the year was up 18.7%, a really fabulous rate of return, and the F Fund was up 4%, almost double what you got in the G Fund. But very few TSP participants are invested in either the F or the I Fund, and so they missed out on that.<\/p>\n

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Terry Gerton <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s a good reminder that the stock market is naturally volatile. I mean, in business school, we used to call it a random walk down Wall Street, right?<\/p>\n

Art Stein <\/strong>That\u2019s what we used to call it, and we still call it that. Over the short term, stock markets are considered to be, yes, as you say, Terry, quite random, the returns, the ups and downs. Sometimes it seems obvious why they\u2019re going up or down, but many times, although you\u2019ll see in the press reasons given, we really don\u2019t know. People don\u2019t invest in the stock markets because they\u2019re worried about a market crash and they don\u2019t like the volatility. But volatility is guaranteed. There\u2019s always volatility every day, every hour. And market crashes, we know they\u2019re coming. We almost had what is considered to be a bear market, which is a 20% or greater decline in a stock or bond market, we almost had one in the first quarter. C Fund was down 19%, so just short of that 20% mark, and that\u2019s why people were pulling out. They\u2019re reacting emotionally, they\u2019re scared, but those kinds of declines are not unusual and a 19% decline, not even really large compared to what we\u2019ve had in the past.<\/p>\n

Terry Gerton <\/strong>I\u2019m speaking with Art Stein. He\u2019s a certified financial planner with Arthur Stein Financial. I want to dig back into a couple of the things you mentioned up front about some of these funds that typically have less investment than the others. The I Fund, which is the international stock fund, actually did better than the C and the S Fund. Does this mean it\u2019s time to look outside the US for better returns, or is this just a temporary shift?<\/p>\n

Art Stein <\/strong>Well, it means that last November, December was a good time to be putting money in the I Fund. Now that it\u2019s up 18.7%, let\u2019s call it 19%, I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s going to keep going up or not. You see, this is the problem. When you get those big returns, that\u2019s when people start looking at putting money in and that might be a good idea, it might not. Nobody knows. The thing about investing in the stock and the bond markets,\u00a0 which is for funds in the TSP, the F, C, S and I, you need to come up with an allocation that\u2019s appropriate for your situation and stick with it. And when the stock markets are down, that\u2019s great for you if you\u2019re employed and you\u2019re buying. Of course, if you\u2019re retired, you feel differently about things. But that\u2019s also a good time to not be pulling money out of the stock market, be taking it from the bond markets. Now, with the TSP, you can\u2019t specify when you\u2019re making a withdrawal from the TSP, you can\u2019t specify which fund you want the money to come from. It\u2019s going to come out proportionately and that\u2019s a disadvantage to the TSP, but for investments outside the TSP, that\u2019s a better way to handle withdrawals.<\/p>\n

Terry Gerton <\/strong>Well, you mentioned the bond fund and I want to come back to that as well, because the F Fund, which is the bond fund, did better than the G Fund and bonds are usually seen as a safer option. So what does that tell us about the risk-return ratio there and how people should be thinking about safe harbors with the bond funds?<\/p>\n

Art Stein <\/strong>Okay, the F Fund is riskier than the G Fund. The G Fund is called a short-term bond fund, but really it\u2019s constructed to just be a savings account with a high interest rate. Typically you\u2019d be hard to get the same interest rate, but not impossible in the private sector in a savings accounts. The F Fund is a true bond fund, it invests in intermediate term bonds, which means they mature in a five to 10 year period. It\u2019s based on the most popular bond index, the Bloomberg Aggregate Bond Index, and the price of those bonds goes up and down over time as interest rates fluctuate. Historically, the F Fund outperformed the G Fund about two thirds of the time on a calendar year basis. The last three years, 2022 through now, very unusual. In 2022, we saw historic declines in bond values because the Fed was raising interest rates. And that caused many people to just think, \u2018Well, I never want to do bonds again.\u2019 But if you have your money in the G Fund, and really the bond fund too, the F Fund, you have to assume that you\u2019re going to lose purchasing power and that the G Fund\u2019s gonna lose more purchasing power than the F Fund over time. Now, past performance, no guarantee of future performance, but historically, it\u2019s pretty strong evidence that after taking into account taxes and inflation, the purchasing power of bonds and bank accounts goes down.<\/p>\n

Terry Gerton <\/strong>So as you look ahead to the second half of 2025, what does your crystal ball say and what should TSP investors be thinking about?<\/p>\n

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Art Stein <\/strong>My crystal ball says, \u2018Do not forecast. Nobody knows.\u2019 My crystal ball says, \u2018We predict that if you forecast what\u2019s going to happen in a six-month period, you will look like an idiot most of the time.\u2019 And my clients were long-term investors. We\u2019re putting money in stocks and bonds, we pick an allocation, maybe 60% in stock funds and 40% in bond funds, may be higher or may be lower depending upon the client, and we stick with it. And when the stock market crashes, we end up transferring money from bond funds to stock funds to buy when prices are low. And when the stock market is doing very well compared to bonds, which is again, a more typical situation, then we\u2019re selling stock funds to buy bond funds because we want to lock in some profits and keep the allocation to what it is. So we do not forecast, because nobody is good at forecasting. And of course, Terry, as you know, and as all federal employees and retirees know, these are just unusual times, unprecedented, really. A lot of things that we assumed about working in and for the federal government turned out not to be true. I always thought that federal employees had great job security. Nobody thinks that anymore. And there is a chance that benefits may be adjusted. Although in the Big, Beautiful Bill that passed, they pulled out the adjustments to federal benefits, which was great, I was so happy to see that. And that did to me seem typical because pretty much every Congress has a group of people who are trying to reduce federal benefits. People get worried, I don\u2019t blame them for being worried, but it\u2019s never worked out. And even now, when the people who want to do that the most had the best opportunity to do it, they couldn\u2019t get it through, which is great. But on the other hand, so many people have been fired, let go, have quit in disgust. So it\u2019s very uncertain times. But that doesn\u2019t mean that stocks are not going to do well in the future. The economy can do well. The stock market can do well even if the federal government\u2019s being gutted.<\/p>\n

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