{"id":142300,"date":"2025-08-13T11:55:09","date_gmt":"2025-08-13T11:55:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/142300\/"},"modified":"2025-08-13T11:55:09","modified_gmt":"2025-08-13T11:55:09","slug":"la-bans-n-word-c-word-at-council-meetings-sparking-free-speech-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/142300\/","title":{"rendered":"LA bans N-word, C-word at council meetings, sparking free speech debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The council called it a &#8216;narrowly focused rule&#8217; to curb ongoing disruptions during its meetings. But some First Amendment groups are concerned it will put the city on a slippery slope.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"position:absolute;top:0;left:0;right:0;bottom:0;width:100%;height:100%;z-index:2\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/85629973007-la-city-council.jpg\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"vidplayicon\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gannett-cdn.com\/appservices\/universal-web\/universal\/icons\/icon-play-alt-white.svg\" alt=\"play\" style=\"height:40px;margin:auto 18px auto 27px;width:40px\"\/><\/p>\n<p>LA council bans &#8216;N&#8217;-word and &#8216;C&#8217;-word in public meetings<\/p>\n<p>Los Angeles City Council banned the use of the &#8220;N&#8221;-word and &#8220;C&#8221;-word in meetings, citing SCOTUS precedent.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The city council passed a motion banning the two terms on July 30, saying they were the &#8220;most frequently used offensive and injurious epithets&#8221; at its meetings.<\/li>\n<li>Some local neighborhood councils supported the measure, saying the terms have also been used regularly at their meetings. They asked the council to consider ways to address those disruptions, too.<\/li>\n<li>Though civil liberties groups said they understand the city&#8217;s desire to address disruptions, they said the rule violates the right to free speech and could invite legal action against the city.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>As deadly wildfires raged across Southern California in January, a Los Angeles city official lamented to the city council and others how they were forced to listen to hateful, vulgar language from some members of the public.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>He thanked the audience for their patience in listening to one man&#8217;s tirade in which he yelled &#8220;burn, Palisades, burn!&#8221; and used the N-word to describe council members.<\/p>\n<p>It was <a href=\"https:\/\/cityclerk.lacity.org\/onlinedocs\/2016\/16-1104-S3_misc_07-29-25.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">far from an isolated incident<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>A small group of people have repeatedly showed up to comment at the council meetings, spewing the N-word and C-word while ranting about everything from the city&#8217;s homeless crisis to mask-wearing and the 2028 Olympics.<\/p>\n<p>Council members finally had enough.<\/p>\n<p>In late July, they passed a motion banning the public from using those two words during council meetings, despite warnings from First Amendment groups that the move could put the city on a slippery slope toward unconstitutional censorship.<\/p>\n<p>Already, the ban is getting put to the test.<\/p>\n<p>Just two days after the council passed the new rule, a man used the N-word three times in less than 10 seconds during his three minutes of speaking time.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Council President Marqueece Harris-Dawson asked for the clerk to pause his time. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSpeaker, you have used the N-word, which is a violation of Council Rule 7,\u201d Harris-Dawson said. \u201cThis is your only warning that this word and any of its variations described in Council Rule 7 may not be used again in this council meeting, any future council meeting or future council committee meetings.\u201d \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>If the man continued to use the term, Harris-Dawson said, he would risk forfeiting the rest of his speaking time and being removed from the meeting. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/cityclerk.lacity.org\/onlinedocs\/2016\/16-1104-S3_misc_03-21-25.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">council&#8217;s motion<\/a> calls the terms the \u201cmost frequently used offensive and injurious epithets\u201d at city council meetings. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It said such words are \u201cinherently harmful,\u201d citing the U.S. Supreme Court\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.oyez.org\/cases\/1940-1955\/315us568\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">1942 decision in Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire<\/a>. The ruling said some terms \u201cby their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Such \u201cfighting words,\u201d the court found, are not protected by the First Amendment.\u00a0That&#8217;s the argument city officials are making to justify the ban. These aren&#8217;t ordinary words, city officials say.<\/p>\n<p>Under the new rule, a speaker who uses the term will first receive a verbal warning. If they use it again, the presiding officer will again tell them they cannot use such language and indicate that the need to reissue the warning has disrupted the meeting, therefore allowing the council to cut off the speaker. The speaker may also be removed from the proceedings and banned from future meetings, according to the motion.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It specifies that violations of the rule would not invoke criminal or financial penalties. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;The cost is too high,&#8217; First Amendment group says<\/p>\n<p>Free speech groups have raised concerns about the rule and its First Amendment implications. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE), urged the council not to adopt the measure, saying <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thefire.org\/sites\/default\/files\/2025\/05\/FIRE%20letter%20to%20LA%20City%20Council%2C%20April%2029%2C%202025.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">in an April 29 letter<\/a> the rule would \u201cimplement an unconstitutional solution when better alternatives that do not infringe on the speech rights of your constituents are available.\u201d \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, the First Amendment Coalition, a nonprofit organization that <a href=\"https:\/\/firstamendmentcoalition.org\/our-work\/advocacy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">focuses on First Amendment issues in California<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/firstamendmentcoalition.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/2025-04-28-Los-Angeles-City-Council.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">wrote a similarly worded letter<\/a> to the council raising concerns. The group said it &#8220;understands and sympathizes&#8221; with the city over the words and their impact on the community.<\/p>\n<p>Still, the group said the rule violates the First Amendment and opens the city up to lawsuits.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;As with other ill-fated attempts to silence offensive speech, that result would amplify the objectionable message and allow those who utter it to claim victory as defenders of free speech,&#8221; the group wrote. &#8220;Also, the first victim of censorship is rarely the last, and attempts at restricting offensive speech often lead to censorship of those they are intended to protect.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But the council\u2019s motion, which was presented in March and passed on July 30, argued that action was necessary because the terms had been used and disrupted the meetings \u201con many occasions.\u201d The sergeants-at-arms \u201cprevented fights that were on the cusp of breaking out\u201d on at least two occasions, the motion said.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It acknowledged that the council \u201cfaces competing duties\u201d in being obligated to hear from the public and give them opportunities to exercise their First Amendment rights while still protecting council members and others in attendance at the meetings. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt is understandable, given the rough and tumble of city council hearings why governments would want rules of decorum,\u201d said <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aclu.org\/bio\/ben-wizner\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ben Wizner<\/a>, director of the American Civil Liberties Union\u2019s Speech, Privacy and Technology Project. \u201cThe problem is, the cost is too high, and it gives them too much authority to suppress and censor opposing views.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But a spokesperson for Harris-Dawson said the measure was not meant to suppress free speech.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is not a ban on offensive speech in general, nor does it limit the public&#8217;s right to criticize, protest, or speak passionately,\u201d the spokesperson said. \u201cInstead, it draws a line at language that, by consistent and documented use, has disrupted the Council&#8217;s ability to conduct public business and discouraged public participation.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Los Angeles City Council meetings compared to \u2018Jerry Springer\u2019\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Harris-Dawson\u2019s spokesperson described the ban as a \u201cnarrowly focused rule\u201d meant to prevent disruptions and maintain a civil environment.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThese slurs are not being restricted because of the viewpoints they may express, but because they have repeatedly incited disruption, escalated tensions and silenced the participation of others,\u201d the spokesperson said. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Right before council meeting broadcasts begin, a disclaimer warns that the \u201cfollowing content may contain offensive language not suitable for some audiences\u201d and that \u201cviewer discretion is advised.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s almost like you\u2019re about to watch an episode of \u2018Jerry Springer,\u2019\u201d said Stephanie Jablonsky, FIRE&#8217;s senior program counsel for public advocacy.<\/p>\n<p>During the council\u2019s July 30 meeting, a member of the public repeatedly used both terms and said the council could make him a \u201cmillionaire\u201d after he sues on free speech grounds.\u00a0The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.clarionledger.com\/story\/news\/2014\/06\/12\/la-kkk-hood-settlement\/10403585\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">council voted in 2014 to settle a free speech lawsuit <\/a>brought by a man who was kicked out of a city commission meeting for wearing a Ku Klux Klan hood and shirt emblazoned with the N-word.<\/p>\n<p>Another man used the N-word several times in condemning the rule, along with a call to \u201csend the Jews back to Israel\u201d and a reference to President Donald Trump\u2019s administration being \u201cthe only America of constitutional betterment.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Kathy Schreiner, the <a href=\"https:\/\/vnnc.org\/board\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">president of the Van Nuys Neighborhood Council<\/a>, which <a href=\"https:\/\/cityclerk.lacity.org\/onlinedocs\/2016\/16-1104-S3_cis_06-24-2025.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">urged the city council to pass the measure<\/a>, said her group\u2019s meetings have also been disrupted by such language.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Schreiner said she has\u00a0&#8220;frequently been called the C-word&#8221; since starting her position in December 2022. The council&#8217;s former president, Michael Browning, was also \u201cfrequently\u201d called the N-word in meetings throughout his two-year tenure, she wrote. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe (Van Nuys Neighborhood Council) has an unusually small attendance from the public at our meetings, and we know that one major reason is how difficult it is to sit through meetings where so many vulgar and nasty public comments are made,\u201d Schreiner said. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>She requested the city council \u201cexplore whether there is some way you could help prohibit the use of these epithets at all Neighborhood Council Board and Committee meetings.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/cityclerk.lacity.org\/onlinedocs\/2016\/16-1104-S3_cis_05-11-2025.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Palms Neighborhood Council also asked <\/a>for the city council to pass the ban and \u201capply the same changes to Neighborhood Council meetings.\u201d Both city and neighborhood council meetings attract people who are \u201cable to disrupt discussions for sport\u201d using \u201cvile language and pointless hate speech,\u201d the statement read. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTransparency in government is crucial, and stakeholders must be allowed to criticize the work of government without fear of reprisal,\u201d the statement went on to say. \u201cBut this process is actually degraded and undermined when individuals with no productive aims destroy the public dialogue and engagement with hate speech targeted only at blowing up the process.\u201d \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>City says rule about preserving access, &#8216;not censoring ideas&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>But the First Amendment \u201cexists for this exact reason,\u201d Jablonsky said.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The remedy, in her view, is to \u201cpunish the disruption\u201d and not the speaker. Though certain terms may be offensive and harmful to many people, Jablonsky said it\u2019s vital to resist any efforts to ban words. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf we don\u2019t, we are setting a dangerous precedent for government to regulate what we say,\u201d she said. \u201cAny inch they are given will absolutely get used.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Wizner agreed, saying the \u201conly speech that needs constitutional protection is speech that deeply offends.&#8221;\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The ACLU\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aclu.org\/news\/civil-liberties\/defending-speech-we-hate\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">2024 article, \u201cDefending Speech We Hate,\u201d<\/a> noted that the organization has defended the free speech rights of numerous groups it strongly disagrees with \u2013 among them neo-Nazis, white supremacists and the National Rifle Association. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOur view is if the First Amendment doesn\u2019t protect the NRA in New York, it doesn\u2019t protect the ACLU in Texas,\u201d Wizner said.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>But the council has maintained that its actions are both legal and necessary to address terms that have \u201crepeatedly incited disruption, escalated tensions and silenced the participation of others\u201d at meetings. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201c<\/strong>Just like courtrooms and school board meetings, Council Chambers are limited public forums where reasonable time, place, and manner rules apply,\u201d Harris-Dawson&#8217;s spokesperson said. \u201cThis motion is about preserving access and safety for everyone, not censoring ideas, but safeguarding the ability of all residents to speak and be heard without intimidation or verbal abuse.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>BrieAnna Frank is a First Amendment Reporting Fellow at USA TODAY. Reach her at\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:bjfrank@gannett.com\">bjfrank@usatoday.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>USA TODAY&#8217;s coverage of First Amendment issues is funded through a collaboration between the Freedom Forum and Journalism Funding Partners.\u00a0Funders do not provide editorial input.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The council called it a &#8216;narrowly focused rule&#8217; to curb ongoing disruptions during its meetings. 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