{"id":185034,"date":"2025-08-29T16:38:13","date_gmt":"2025-08-29T16:38:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/185034\/"},"modified":"2025-08-29T16:38:13","modified_gmt":"2025-08-29T16:38:13","slug":"elon-musk-shares-unbelievable-starship-flight-10-landing-feat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/185034\/","title":{"rendered":"Elon Musk shares unbelievable Starship Flight 10 landing feat"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tesla CEO Elon Musk has frequently expressed his opinions on LiDAR in the past, but in recent days, the EV maker\u2019s frontman has continued to discuss the weaknesses in the technology and why his company has relied on cameras.<\/p>\n<p>He also mentioned the suite\u2019s limits on Waymo\u2019s capabilities.<\/p>\n<p>Tesla completely abandoned using radar alongside its camera suite a few years ago, something it referred to as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.teslarati.com\/tesla-replaces-sensors-tesla-vision\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u201cTesla Vision\u201d at the time<\/a>. For its vehicles, it has only used cameras since this transition, and Musk has never once shied away from this strategy.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier this week, he discussed the reliance of LiDAR and radar by other companies:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\u201cLidar and radar reduce safety due to sensor contention. If lidars\/radars disagree with cameras, which one wins?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">This sensor ambiguity causes increased, not decreased, risk. That\u2019s why Waymos can\u2019t drive on highways.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">We turned off radars in Teslas to increase safety. Cameras ftw.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"7Ush0QeYb7\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.teslarati.com\/elon-musk-lidar-radar-make-self-driving-cars-more-dangerous\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Elon Musk argues lidar and radar make self driving cars more dangerous<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>He continued with this narrative again and mentioned Waymo specifically on a second occasion.<\/p>\n<p>Musk\u2019s focus this time was on Waymo vehicles and their capabilities in adverse weather, specifically snow, rain, or even dust storms, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.teslarati.com\/ford-ceo-favors-waymo-lidar-vs-tesla-vision\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">how LiDAR struggles to navigate in these conditions<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>He said:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\u201cLiDAR also does not work well in snow, rain or dust due to reflection scatter. That\u2019s why Waymos stop working in any heavy precipitation. As I have said many times, there is a role for LiDAR in some circumstances and I personally oversaw the development of LiDAR for the SpaceX Dragon docking with Space Station. I am well aware of its strengths and weaknesses.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">LiDAR also does not work well in snow, rain or dust due to reflection scatter. That\u2019s why Waymos stop working in any heavy precipitation.<br \/>As I have said many times, there is a role for LiDAR in some circumstances and I personally oversaw the development of LiDAR for the SpaceX\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elonmusk\/status\/1960385338699874758?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">August 26, 2025<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Tesla\u2019s approach is significantly different than most companies. Waymo, Motional, Aurora, and Zoox all use LiDAR for their self-driving programs, while Tesla continues to rely on its camera-only approach.<\/p>\n<p>Musk even said that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.teslarati.com\/tesla-pushes-crazy-luxe-incentive-package-model-s-model-x\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Model S and Model X utilized a Tesla-developed high-resolution radar<\/a>, but it could not \u201ccompare to passive optical (cameras), so we turned it off.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Tesla developed high resolution radar and the hardware is actually present in Model S &amp; X, but it just can\u2019t compare to passive optical (cameras), so we turned it off.<\/p>\n<p>As a side note, any military systems that rely on radar \u201cstealth\u201d technology are toast in a modern conflict,\u2026<br \/>\u2014 Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elonmusk\/status\/1960455342631928281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">August 26, 2025<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Tesla CEO Elon Musk has frequently expressed his opinions on LiDAR in the past, but in recent days,&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":185035,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[24],"tags":[1322,159,783,2527,14884,67,132,68],"class_list":{"0":"post-185034","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-space","8":"tag-featured","9":"tag-science","10":"tag-space","11":"tag-spacex","12":"tag-starship","13":"tag-united-states","14":"tag-unitedstates","15":"tag-us"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@us\/115113040566694111","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/185034","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=185034"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/185034\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/185035"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=185034"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=185034"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=185034"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}