{"id":191496,"date":"2025-09-01T13:03:12","date_gmt":"2025-09-01T13:03:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/191496\/"},"modified":"2025-09-01T13:03:12","modified_gmt":"2025-09-01T13:03:12","slug":"kuo-reiterates-touch-id-in-the-iphone-fold-unlikely-to-be-in-display","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/191496\/","title":{"rendered":"Kuo reiterates Touch ID in the iPhone Fold; unlikely to be in-display"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t<img width=\"1600\" height=\"800\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/iphone-fold-02.jpg\" class=\"skip-lazy wp-post-image\" alt=\"Render of the iPhone Fold with Touch ID\"  decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/guides\/aapl\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Apple<\/a> analyst Ming-Chi Kuo <a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/2025\/03\/06\/apples-first-foldable-iphone-may-feature-crease-free-display-but-lacks-face-id-and-cost-more-than-2000\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">said back in March<\/a> that he expected the <a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/guides\/iphone-fold\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">iPhone Fold<\/a> to have <a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/guides\/touch-id\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">To<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/guides\/touch-id\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">u<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/guides\/touch-id\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ch ID<\/a> on the side button rather than using <a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/guides\/face-id\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Face ID<\/a>. He has today reiterated this.<\/p>\n<p>While there have been some suggestions that Apple might use an in-display ultrasonic Touch ID sensor, Kuo says this is \u201cunlikely\u201d \u2026<\/p>\n<p>iPhone Fold<\/p>\n<p>The iPhone Fold is expected to launch next year as the new flagship model. Pricing is expected to be around $2,000.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019re expecting a 5.5-inch external display and a <a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/2025\/07\/23\/analyst-corroborates-iphone-fold-dimensions-as-rumor-mill-heats-up\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">7.8-inch unfolded internal display<\/a>. This would effectively combine an iPhone and an iPad mini in one device.<\/p>\n<p>Apple has taken a very long time to develop a folding iPhone, in what is a fairly extreme version of the company\u2019s best-not-first policy. Samsung first launched a foldable phone seven years earlier.<\/p>\n<p>Apple is said to have waited until it was possible to virtually <a href=\"https:\/\/9to5google.com\/2022\/05\/24\/galaxy-z-fold-4-crease\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">eliminate a visible crease<\/a> in the unfolded screen. Display partner Samsung was reported to have\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/2025\/02\/25\/the-biggest-problem-with-a-folding-iphone-has-been-solved-says-new-report\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">done this to Apple\u2019s satisfaction<\/a>\u00a0back in February.<\/p>\n<p>The wisdom of Apple\u2019s delayed launch was shown when Samsung\u2019s first Galaxy Fold phone proved <a href=\"https:\/\/9to5google.com\/2019\/04\/17\/samsung-galaxy-fold-broken\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">such a disaster<\/a> that the company had to <a href=\"https:\/\/9to5google.com\/2019\/04\/23\/galaxy-fold-review-units\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">withdraw review models<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/9to5google.com\/2019\/05\/07\/cancelling-galaxy-fold-orders\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">cancel customer orders<\/a>. Even four generations later, the Galaxy Fold was still extremely vulnerable to being damaged by dust being trapped inside the fold.<\/p>\n<p>With Touch ID on the side button<\/p>\n<p>Although it might seem surprising for Apple to use Touch ID instead of the Face ID it uses in all modern iPhones, the problem is the depth of the TrueDepth scanning module required. The iPhone Fold is expected to be only around 4.5mm thick when unfolded, which is less than the depth of the Face ID module.<\/p>\n<p>Cost is likely to be another consideration, as Apple would need to have twin scanners, one for the external screen and another for the internal one. A single Touch ID sensor on a button is far more cost effective.<\/p>\n<p>Apple holds patents for embedding both Touch ID and Face ID into the display, and some had hoped that this would be possible for the iPhone Fold. However, while Kuo does not entirely rule this out, he says in a tweet that he considers it <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/mingchikuo\/status\/1962315730634105242\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">unlikely<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Six months ago, I predicted the foldable iPhone would use side-button Touch ID. There are now market rumors that it will adopt an under-display ultrasonic fingerprint sensor, but I think that\u2019s unlikely. It\u2019s expected that Luxshare ICT will supply the side-button Touch ID module.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Again, given the need for Touch ID in both folded and unfolded configurations, he is very likely to be right about this.<\/p>\n<p>The iPhone Fold will already require twin selfie cameras, one on the outside, the other on the inside. Two rear cameras will be available in both folded and unfolded forms.<\/p>\n<p>Highlighted accessories<\/p>\n<p class=\"disclaimer-affiliate\">FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links. <a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/about\/#affiliate\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">More.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/bmx\/solidsafe-safer-solid-state-battery-for-iphone-wireless-usb?ref=gka71h\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1012938\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/1755287113_345_BMX-Mac-925-banner-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"150\"\/><\/a>\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said back in March that he expected the iPhone Fold to have Touch ID&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":69469,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[17],"tags":[611,158,67,132,68],"class_list":{"0":"post-191496","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-mobile","8":"tag-mobile","9":"tag-technology","10":"tag-united-states","11":"tag-unitedstates","12":"tag-us"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@us\/115129182057342892","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/191496","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=191496"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/191496\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/69469"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=191496"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=191496"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=191496"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}