{"id":217507,"date":"2025-09-11T06:34:14","date_gmt":"2025-09-11T06:34:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/217507\/"},"modified":"2025-09-11T06:34:14","modified_gmt":"2025-09-11T06:34:14","slug":"clay-holmes-rotation-standing-unknown-after-latest-mets-dud","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/217507\/","title":{"rendered":"Clay Holmes&#8217; rotation standing unknown after latest Mets dud"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>PHILADELPHIA \u2014 <a href=\"http:\/\/PHILADELPHIA \u2014 On a night the Mets lost 11-3, with bats that were silent against an opposing starting pitcher for a fourth straight game, manager Carlos Mendoza determined the starting pitching has been the biggest problem of late.  A wild Clay Holmes allowed two strange runs in the first inning \u2014 after Sean Manaea surrendered four runs in the first two innings Tuesday \u2014 which set the tone of an eventual thrashing at Citizens Bank Park, where the Mets dropped a fifth straight.  \u201cI think some guys from the rotation have had a tough stretch here,\u201d Mendoza said of the through line of the losses. \u201cWhen we\u2019re playing a lot of games in a row and we\u2019re not getting decent length or decent outings, it has a trickle effect. On the pitching staff, on the bats. The game is obviously different.  \u201cUsually you\u2019re down four or five runs, and then the at-bats are completely different.\u201d  Which will make how the Mets handle Holmes and Manaea down the stretch curious.  David Stearns has acknowledged the club has talked about piggybacking starters \u2014 one pitcher going three or four innings before handing off to another \u2014 and Holmes and Manaea are intriguing possibilities because of their issues pitching deeper into games.  \u201cWe\u2019re counting on them \u2026 we need those guys,\u201d manager Carlos Mendoza said, although the role in which the Mets will need those pitchers remains unclear.  The Mets rotation is set through Sunday before an off-day Monday that Mendoza said will be used to talk through their pitching strategy. He has said Manaea will get another start \u201cas of now.\u201d It is unknown whether Holmes has earned one too after another four-plus-inning, four-run outing in which he allowed six hits, three walks and hit two.  The trouble started immediately during a 29-pitch first inning that contained zero hard-hit balls. Harrison Bader lightly singled into left. Kyle Schwarber walked. A sweeper hit Bryce Harper. J.T. Realmuto blooped an RBI single into center. After a strikeout, another errant sweeper hit Max Kepler to force in a second run.  \u201cAt that point we\u2019re playing from behind,\u201d said Holmes, who has a 3.75 ERA in 29 starts in his first season as a starter. \u201cThese games mean a lot, so can\u2019t really afford to have those mistakes there.\u201d  Holmes was unharmed again until the fourth, when a Realmuto single and Brandon Marsh RBI double knocked him from the game after 76 pitches.  Mendoza was attempting to be aggressive with a rested bullpen that then failed to keep the game close.  \u201cIt\u2019s really just finishing off those outings,\u201d said Holmes, although the club will decide how long it can go before trying something different.  ***  Tylor Megill, whose rehab assignment with Triple-A Syracuse was shut down last weekend because of a recurrence of elbow discomfort, is seeking multiple opinions from doctors, Mendoza said.  On Sunday, Megill felt the same tightness on off-speed pitches that had surfaced in mid-June, when he was sent for an MRI exam that revealed inflammation and nothing more.  Mendoza said that he had not heard that Tommy John surgery was a possibility and did not want to speculate before learning a final diagnosis.  \u201cHopefully in the next 24, 48 hours, we\u2019ll get some news there,\u201d Mendoza said before the Mets played the Phillies on Wednesday.  ***  For the first time this season, Mark Vientos batted third. Sandwiched between Juan Soto and Pete Alonso was the hottest Mets hitter for the past several weeks, who proceeded to go 0-for-3 with a walk and two strikeouts.  Since Aug. 17, Vientos had posted a 1.144 OPS with 10 home runs, 25 RBIs and a .304 average in 22 games entering play. He has turned his season around after a rough first four and a half months, owning a .633 OPS in mid-August (after he survived the trade deadline).  ***  In the sixth straight day of games amid a stretch of 10 consecutive and against an opposing lefty, Mendoza rested Jeff McNeil.  Luisangel Acu\u00f1a started at second base and went 0-for-2.  ***  Jose Siri started at center field for a second straight day and struck out in both of his at-bats.  Cedric Mullins, who Mendoza has said will play more against righties, pinch hit against a righty in the seventh and walked before singling in the ninth.  ***  Mendoza acknowledged what the club suspected in stating Jesse Winker will miss the rest of the season.  The DH, whose rehab assignment was shut down because of his back ailment, is consulting with doctors and \u201cseeing what\u2019s next,\u201d Mendoza said.  ***  Frankie Montas underwent Tommy John surgery and had bone chips removed in a procedure performed by Dr. Neal ElAttrache.\">On a night the Mets lost 11-3<\/a>, with bats that were silent against an opposing starting pitcher for a fourth straight game, manager Carlos Mendoza determined the starting pitching has been the biggest problem of late.<\/p>\n<p>A wild Clay Holmes allowed two strange runs in the first inning \u2014 after Sean Manaea surrendered four runs in the first two innings Tuesday \u2014 which set the tone of an eventual thrashing at Citizens Bank Park, where the Mets dropped a fifth straight.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think some guys from the rotation have had a tough stretch here,\u201d Mendoza said of the through line of the losses. \u201cWhen we\u2019re playing a lot of games in a row and we\u2019re not getting decent length or decent outings, it has a trickle effect. On the pitching staff, on the bats. The game is obviously different.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cUsually you\u2019re down four or five runs, and then the at-bats are completely different.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Which will make how the Mets handle Holmes and Manaea down the stretch curious.<\/p>\n<p>David Stearns has acknowledged the club has talked about piggybacking starters \u2014 one pitcher going three or four innings before handing off to another \u2014 and Holmes and Manaea are intriguing possibilities because of their issues pitching deeper into games.<\/p>\n<p>Clay Holmes of the New York Mets throws a pitch in the third inning on Sept. 10, 2025. Corey Sipkin for the NY POST<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019re counting on them \u2026 we need those guys,\u201d manager Carlos Mendoza said, although the role in which the Mets will need those pitchers remains unclear.<\/p>\n<p>The Mets rotation is set through Sunday before an off-day Monday that Mendoza said will be used to talk through their pitching strategy. He has said Manaea will get another start \u201cas of now.\u201d It is unknown whether Holmes has earned one too after another four-plus-inning, four-run outing in which he allowed six hits, three walks and hit two.<\/p>\n<p>The trouble started immediately during a 29-pitch first inning that contained zero hard-hit balls. Harrison Bader lightly singled into left. Kyle Schwarber walked. A sweeper hit Bryce Harper. J.T. Realmuto blooped an RBI single into center. After a strikeout, another errant sweeper hit Max Kepler to force in a second run.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\tDelivering insights on all things Amazin\u2019s\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p class=\"inline-module__cta\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSign up for Inside the Mets by Mike Puma, exclusively on Sports+\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\tThank you\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAt that point we\u2019re playing from behind,\u201d said Holmes, who has a 3.75 ERA in 29 starts in his first season as a starter. \u201cThese games mean a lot, so can\u2019t really afford to have those mistakes there.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Holmes was unharmed again until the fourth, when a Realmuto single and Brandon Marsh RBI double knocked him from the game after 76 pitches.<\/p>\n<p>Sean Manaea of the Mets reacts after he gives up a solo homer to Harrison Bader in the second inning against the Philadelphia Phillies at Citizens Bank Park on Tuesday, Sept. 9, 2025, Corey Sipkin for the NY POST<\/p>\n<p>Mendoza was attempting to be aggressive with a rested bullpen that then failed to keep the game close.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s really just finishing off those outings,\u201d said Holmes, although the club will decide how long it can go before trying something different.<\/p>\n<p>Tylor Megill, whose rehab assignment with Triple-A Syracuse was shut down last weekend because of a recurrence of elbow discomfort, is seeking multiple opinions from doctors, Mendoza said.<\/p>\n<p>On Sunday, Megill felt the same tightness on off-speed pitches that had surfaced in mid-June, when he was sent for an MRI exam that revealed inflammation and nothing more.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Mendoza said that he had not heard that Tommy John surgery was a possibility and did not want to speculate before learning a final diagnosis.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHopefully in the next 24, 48 hours, we\u2019ll get some news there,\u201d Mendoza said before the Mets played the Phillies on Wednesday.<\/p>\n<p>Mark Vientos of the Mets reacts after he strikes out in the first inning against the Philadelphia Phillies at Citizens Bank Park on Sept. 10. Corey Sipkin for the NY POST<\/p>\n<p>For the first time this season, Mark Vientos batted third. Sandwiched between Juan Soto and Pete Alonso was the hottest Mets hitter for the past several weeks, who proceeded to go 0-for-3 with a walk and two strikeouts.<\/p>\n<p>Since Aug. 17, Vientos had posted a 1.144 OPS with 10 home runs, 25 RBIs and a .304 average in 22 games entering play. He has turned his season around after a rough first four and a half months, owning a .633 OPS in mid-August (after he survived the trade deadline).<\/p>\n<p>In the sixth straight day of games amid a stretch of 10 consecutive and against an opposing lefty, Mendoza rested Jeff McNeil.<\/p>\n<p>Luisangel Acu\u00f1a started at second base and went 0-for-2.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Jose Siri started at center field for a second straight day and struck out in both of his at-bats.<\/p>\n<p>Cedric Mullins, who Mendoza has said will play more against righties, pinch hit against a righty in the seventh and walked before singling in the ninth.<\/p>\n<p>Mendoza acknowledged what the club suspected in stating Jesse Winker will miss the rest of the season.<\/p>\n<p>The DH, whose rehab assignment was shut down because of his back ailment, is consulting with doctors and \u201cseeing what\u2019s next,\u201d Mendoza said.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2025\/09\/09\/sports\/mets-frankie-montas-expected-to-get-tommy-john-surgery-out-until-2027\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Frankie Montas underwent Tommy John surgery<\/a> and had bone chips removed in a procedure performed by Dr. Neal ElAttrache.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"PHILADELPHIA \u2014 On a night the Mets lost 11-3, with bats that were silent against an opposing starting&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":217508,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5122],"tags":[5229,27639,20404,1266,405,403,1305,5226,5225,5228,13726,5227,26096,62,67,586,132,5230,68,2969],"class_list":{"0":"post-217507","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-new-york","8":"tag-america","9":"tag-carlos-mendoza","10":"tag-clay-holmes","11":"tag-mlb","12":"tag-new-york","13":"tag-new-york-city","14":"tag-new-york-mets","15":"tag-newyork","16":"tag-newyorkcity","17":"tag-ny","18":"tag-ny-sports-minute","19":"tag-nyc","20":"tag-sean-manaea","21":"tag-sports","22":"tag-united-states","23":"tag-united-states-of-america","24":"tag-unitedstates","25":"tag-unitedstatesofamerica","26":"tag-us","27":"tag-usa"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@us\/115184275628087728","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/217507","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=217507"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/217507\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/217508"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=217507"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=217507"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=217507"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}