{"id":218967,"date":"2025-09-11T19:42:14","date_gmt":"2025-09-11T19:42:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/218967\/"},"modified":"2025-09-11T19:42:14","modified_gmt":"2025-09-11T19:42:14","slug":"the-dodgers-are-showing-signs-of-weakness-can-the-giants-take-advantage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/218967\/","title":{"rendered":"The Dodgers are showing signs of weakness. Can the Giants take advantage?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Los Angeles Dodgers have won four games in a row entering their series against the San Francisco Giants, so it\u2019s not right to describe the Dodgers as a struggling team. They\u2019re leading the National League West, yet again, so it\u2019s also not right to consider their season a disappointment. On the surface, it\u2019s hard to get a situation that\u2019s less unusual than a division-leading Dodgers team coming into Oracle Park in September with an active winning streak. Everything is normal. On the surface.<\/p>\n<p>Peek underneath, though, and the 2025 Dodgers are a curious variant of their typical division-leading selves. They\u2019re leaking oil. They\u2019re leaking transmission fluid. They\u2019re leaking \u2026 look, I don\u2019t know what that is, but you probably shouldn\u2019t touch it. Shohei Ohtani is going to be the NL MVP, and both Freddie Freeman and Will Smith will appear on MVP ballots, but all around them, position players are having disappointing seasons, or they\u2019re hurt, or both. The best way to describe the pitching staff is to point out that they\u2019ve used 39 different pitchers this season.<\/p>\n<p>The goal of pointing this out isn\u2019t for your satisfaction or amusement. The Dodgers come into the series with an eight-game lead over the Giants and a three-game lead in the NL West. They\u2019re doing fine! The Giants would give up next year\u2019s first-round pick to trade places with them in the standings.<\/p>\n<p>No, the state of the 2025 Dodgers is an opening to talk about a couple of different things. First is that the general baseball-loving population wasn\u2019t wrong for panicking about how dominant the Dodgers looked in the offseason. If the Dodgers, as currently assembled, can still win 91 games and the division (what they\u2019re on pace for), just imagine how many games they would have won if most of their better laid plans hadn\u2019t gone awry, if Roki Sasaki was a unanimous Rookie of the Year winner, if they could keep their overstuffed starting rotation healthy, if they got bushels of quality, high-leverage relief from their well-paid relievers, if they could unlock whatever they saw hidden in Michael Conforto, if \u2026<\/p>\n<p>Yessir, that team would have been a bear to deal with. It\u2019s just not the team the Dodgers have. Did you catch the part where the Dodgers are on pace to win only 91 games? That\u2019s not very Dodger-like, and the only reason they\u2019re leading the division is because the other teams keep getting their neckties caught in the hot dog roller, so to speak. It\u2019s been a real slapfight in the NL West, which is remarkable, considering how the season started. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/boxes\/index.fcgi?year=2025&amp;month=04&amp;day=16\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Halfway through the first month of the season<\/a>, the Dodgers, Giants\u00a0and Padres had winning percentages over .700. The Diamondbacks\u2019 winning percentage was .611. There was a sense that 101 games wasn\u2019t going to be enough to win the division. Now 91 games should be.<\/p>\n<p>The lesson here, if there is one, is that chaos can come for even the best rosters. The baseball gods are a cantankerous lot, and you know they took the seemingly impenetrable Dodgers\u2019 roster as a challenge. Some of the best Giants seasons in San Francisco history (1997, 2021) happened because the unbeatable Dodgers turned out to be quite beatable, and this could have been one of those seasons. The Giants, however, are still stuck in the hot dog roller, and they\u2019ve only recently come up with the idea to unclip the necktie.\u00a0 They\u2019re working on it. Godspeed.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-6620881 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/GettyImages-2224720663-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1728\"  \/><\/p>\n<p>      The Giants and Dodgers are a more competitive match-up now than it seemed like it\u2019d be this winter. (Thearon W. Henderson \/ Getty Images)<\/p>\n<p>If there\u2019s a bigger-picture story about the 2025 Dodgers, though, it\u2019s with the players you\u2019re\u00a0not seeing. Here\u2019s where the Dodgers\u2019 farm system has ranked in Keith Law\u2019s Organizational Rankings before the last several seasons:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6094581\/2025\/01\/30\/mlb-farm-system-rankings-2025\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">2025<\/a>: 3rd<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/5258158\/2024\/02\/09\/mlb-farm-system-rankings-2024\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">2024<\/a>: 3rd<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/4138444\/2023\/02\/02\/mlb-farm-system-ranking-prospects\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">2023<\/a>: 1st<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/3112765\/2022\/02\/07\/mlb-2022-farm-system-rankings-keith-law-grades-all-30-teams-on-prospects-with-the-dodgers-at-no-1\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">2022<\/a>: 1st<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/2375784\/2021\/02\/10\/mlb-2021-farm-system-rankings-keith-law\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">2021<\/a>: 10th<\/p>\n<p>These were uncontroversial rankings. Everyone has loved the Dodgers\u2019 farm system for a long time, and we all know that a conveyor belt of prospects is the true secret sauce of every perennially contending team. (That 10th-place ranking was their lowest in a decade, too.)<\/p>\n<p>Which leads us to the obvious question about the 2025 Dodgers in this context: Where are all the players from those lists? Where is the prospect cavalry that should have arrived for the Dodgers this season? The answers vary wildly. Some of the prospects were dealt away, as you might expect from a perennial contender. Some of the prospects were\/are teenagers and aren\u2019t expected to arrive for years. Some of them have been hurt or disappointing (one of their most highly regarded prospects of the last decade is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/register\/player.fcgi?id=cartay000die\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">now catching for the San Jose Giants<\/a>, for example).<\/p>\n<p>The actual answers to the \u201cwhy\u201d aren\u2019t important, though. What matters is that the Dodgers haven\u2019t received a lot of help from those top-ranked farm systems this season. This isn\u2019t to say that the Dodgers haven\u2019t gotten any homegrown help from players under 30. Andy Pages\u2019 offensive game resembles that of Heliot Ramos, but Pages is also a Gold Glove-caliber center fielder, if you can imagine such a thing. Emmett Sheehan is healthy again, and he just pitched seven strong innings.<\/p>\n<p>But in a season where the Dodgers needed to fill more holes than expected, they didn\u2019t get a lot of help from within, outside of Pages and Sheehan. And if you\u2019re wondering what really feels different about the Dodgers this season, that might be it. The great players have been predictably great in most cases, but you can see some of the cracks forming. There haven\u2019t been enough homegrown reinforcements to keep the Dodgers winning at their typical pace.<\/p>\n<p>This is developing concern for a team that\u2019s built around a foundation of over-30 superstars. Pages and Yoshinobu Yamamoto are the only two under-30 players on the Dodgers\u2019 active roster that I would guarantee are still with the organization in 2027. Now consider that the types of superstars the Dodgers have acquired \u2014 Mookie Betts, Shohei Ohtani, Freddie Freeman \u2014 aren\u2019t always available. There were a lot of cosmic tumblers that had to click into place there, starting with those players\u2019 original teams screwing up in dozens of unlikely ways. The conveyor belt of prospects was always the most important and reliable part of the Dodgers\u2019 success.<\/p>\n<p>And here\u2019s where I\u2019d love to close with a paragraph contrasting that situation with the Giants, who have the kind of roster and farm system that\u2019s perfectly positioned to take advantage of this temporary and rare Dodgers weakness, except that\u2019s not quite true. The Giants might have more young players than the Dodgers with a chance to be on the team in three years, but they don\u2019t have anything resembling a conveyor belt, and they haven\u2019t since Madison Bumgarner broke the machine that made him. If they\u2019re going to take advantage, it\u2019ll have to be with the crew they currently have, along with a few surprises along the way.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6613118\/2025\/09\/09\/sf-giants-season-strengths\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Which \u2026 isn\u2019t such a bad thing anymore?<\/a> With the way the Giants have been playing, this weekend\u2019s series doesn\u2019t look like the on-paper mismatch that it\u2019s typically been over the last decade. The Dodgers are still the better team, and it\u2019s about eight games\u2019 worth of difference, which is substantial. But you don\u2019t need to write science fiction to imagine the gap between the two teams shrinking over the next couple years.<\/p>\n<p>It was just six months ago that the Dodgers looked unbeatable, yet again. Now? Just hard to beat. That\u2019s where they\u2019ve historically belonged, and it\u2019s up to the Giants to take advantage. Considering the understandable doom and gloom after the Dodgers built their super team of the offseason \u2014 or, heck, the doom and gloom of just a couple months ago \u2014 you\u2019ll take that.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">(Top photo: Darren Yamashita \/ Imagn Images)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The Los Angeles Dodgers have won four games in a row entering their series against the San Francisco&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":218968,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[41],"tags":[1266,1275,62,67,132,68],"class_list":{"0":"post-218967","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-mlb","8":"tag-mlb","9":"tag-san-francisco-giants","10":"tag-sports","11":"tag-united-states","12":"tag-unitedstates","13":"tag-us"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/218967","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=218967"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/218967\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/218968"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=218967"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=218967"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=218967"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}