{"id":248172,"date":"2025-09-23T05:54:10","date_gmt":"2025-09-23T05:54:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/248172\/"},"modified":"2025-09-23T05:54:10","modified_gmt":"2025-09-23T05:54:10","slug":"ai-startups-are-growing-by-vibes-not-data-says-former-facebook-vp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/248172\/","title":{"rendered":"AI Startups Are Growing by &#8216;Vibes,&#8217; Not Data, Says Former Facebook VP"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Some of the hottest AI companies are scaling by &#8220;good instincts and good vibes&#8221; without much of a data foundation, a former Facebook vice president said.<\/p>\n<p>Julie Zhuo, the former VP of design at Facebook who cofounded the AI analytics startup Sundial, said many startups <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/why-ai-bubble-meta-sam-altman-mit-report-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">riding the AI boom<\/a> have grown at such a breakneck pace that they haven&#8217;t had time to build proper data infrastructure.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We see companies that are growing insane, and they&#8217;re still about 10 people or two people,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They&#8217;ve got hundreds of millions in ARR and hundreds of millions of users, and you know what, they don&#8217;t actually have all of that infrastructure, that logging, to be able to truly do data analysis,&#8221; she added, speaking of annual recurring revenue.<\/p>\n<p>Traditionally, companies didn&#8217;t hit 100 million users overnight. Slower growth gave teams years to build out logging systems, hire a data team, and develop &#8220;observability&#8221; \u2014 the ability to understand what&#8217;s actually driving user behavior and revenue, Zhuo said.<\/p>\n<p>But Zhuo warned that the growth won&#8217;t last forever. When the curve flattens, these startups will be &#8220;scrambling&#8221; to answer basic questions like why users churn, which features people value, and what levers really drive the business, she said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;At that point, that&#8217;s usually when people start investing a ton in data,&#8221; she added. &#8220;Data helps you figure out what&#8217;s actually happening.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Zhuo also said it&#8217;s important to rethink how success is measured in the AI era, especially given the speed at which some companies are growing.<\/p>\n<p>Products built around chatbots or conversational interfaces need new analytical methods. Instead of counting clicks or page views, &#8220;we have to probably use an LLM or a machine learning model to bucket user intent,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>Zhuo did not respond to a request for comment from Business Insider.<\/p>\n<p>                      Related stories<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>            The boom of AI companies<\/p>\n<p>The breakneck pace Zhuo described reflects a broader trend across the industry.<\/p>\n<p>AI startups have been raising record amounts of money and soaring in valuations, with more than $35 billion raised in 2024, Business Insider reported last year.<\/p>\n<p>A number of investors are concerned that the AI market might be overheating and that we&#8217;re at risk of reliving the <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/erik-gordon-ai-stocks-dot-com-bubble-crash-tech-market-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">dot-com bubble burst<\/a> in 2000. Some are wondering whether <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/limits-large-language-models-chatgpt-agi-artificial-general-intelligence-openai-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">large language models<\/a> are actually powerful enough to develop the long-desired superintelligence; some fear tech companies&#8217; <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/google-data-centers-cloud-welcome-aboard-ai-crazy-train-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">massive expenditures<\/a> won&#8217;t pay off; and some are worried that <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/fomo-fueling-a-risky-bubble-in-ais-hottest-companies-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">less experienced investors <\/a>are getting caught up in the hype.<\/p>\n<p>OpenAI CEO <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/sam-altman-chatgpt-openai-ceo-career-net-worth-ycombinator-prepper-2023-1\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">Sam Altman<\/a> said last month that it&#8217;s &#8220;insane&#8221; and &#8220;not rational&#8221; that some tiny AI startups are getting funding at high valuations.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Are we in a phase where investors as a whole are overexcited about AI? My opinion is yes,&#8221; he <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/limits-large-language-models-chatgpt-agi-artificial-general-intelligence-openai-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">told reporters<\/a>, per The Verge. &#8220;Is AI the most important thing to happen in a very long time? My opinion is also yes.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Some of the hottest AI companies are scaling by &#8220;good instincts and good vibes&#8221; without much of a&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":248173,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[691,738,158,67,132,68],"class_list":{"0":"post-248172","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-artificial-intelligence","8":"tag-ai","9":"tag-artificial-intelligence","10":"tag-technology","11":"tag-united-states","12":"tag-unitedstates","13":"tag-us"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/248172","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=248172"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/248172\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/248173"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=248172"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=248172"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=248172"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}