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Phoenix resident Jacob Angeli-Chansley, better known as the QAnon Shaman, filed a $40 trillion lawsuit against President Donald Trump in September. (File photo by Hope O\u2019Brien\/Cronkite News)<\/p>\n
PHOENIX \u2013 A Phoenix man says he is the true leader of the free world and has a plan to revolutionize American society \u2014 he just needs $40 trillion.<\/p>\n
In a 26-page lawsuit filed Sept. 22<\/a>, consisting of a single paragraph, Jacob Angeli-Chansley, known as the \u201cQAnon Shaman,\u201d<\/a> sued President Donald Trump for that amount and shared his plans to eliminate the national debt and upgrade American infrastructure in an exclusive interview this week.<\/p>\n Like many of his fellow Phoenicians, Angeli-Chansley says his favorite part of living in Phoenix is the desert and his access to the outdoors. He said he loves to hike in his free time. But Angeli-Chansley is better known for donning red-and-blue face paint and a horned fur hat while carrying a bullhorn and an American flag fastened to a spear during his participation in the Jan. 6 insurrection. <\/p>\n \u201cHe stated that \u2018Mike Pence is a f\u2014-ing traitor\u2019 and wrote a note on available paper on the dais, stating, \u2018It\u2019s Only A Matter of Time. Justice Is Coming,\u2019\u201d according to the Department of Justice<\/a>. \u201cHe further called other rioters up to the dais and led them in an incantation over his bullhorn.\u201d <\/p>\n He pleaded guilty in federal court and was convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding. The first day of his second term, Trump issued an executive order<\/a> granting clemency and pardoning him, along with over 1,500 others, including an estimated 15 people<\/a> from Arizona. <\/p>\n Angeli-Chansley, 37, has since turned his back on the president.<\/p>\n Angeli-Chansley said he worked closely with Trump and his administration off the record since late 2019 in an advisory role, choosing \u201cto invest time, energy, attention, focus into helping the country.\u201d He did not elaborate on how long he was in this role.<\/p>\n The White House did not respond to a request for comment for this story. <\/p>\n His tone has changed. <\/p>\n \u201cI\u2019m essentially threatening the system,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n For a while, Angeli-Chansley\u2019s way of thinking lined up with the system. Trump, in his first administration, often made references to the QAnon conspiracy theory<\/a> and at one point referenced one of the group\u2019s code words at a meeting with military officials at the White House. Angeli-Chansley said he stormed the U.S. Capitol when he thought Trump needed him, and it cost Angeli-Chansley his freedom for a time. <\/p>\n