{"id":343377,"date":"2025-10-30T15:07:33","date_gmt":"2025-10-30T15:07:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/343377\/"},"modified":"2025-10-30T15:07:33","modified_gmt":"2025-10-30T15:07:33","slug":"amazon-ups-other-big-layoffs-dont-tell-the-whole-job-market-picture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/343377\/","title":{"rendered":"Amazon, UPS, Other Big Layoffs Don&#8217;t Tell the Whole Job Market Picture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Workers have been begging for the <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/low-hire-low-fire-layoffs-employees-stuck-unemployment-job-seekers-2025-10\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">Great Freeze<\/a> to thaw \u2014 but not this way.<\/p>\n<p>With hiring largely frozen in the US, any uptick in firings could set off alarm bells. Just this week, <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/amazon-job-cuts-layoffs-cost-saving-measure-2025-10\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">Amazon slashed 14,000 jobs<\/a>; <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/paramount-layoff-memo-1000-employees-ceo-david-ellison-2025-10\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">Paramount laid off about 1,000<\/a>; and <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/ups-cut-34-000-jobs-in-2025-more-than-expected-2025-10\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">UPS announced it&#8217;s shrunk<\/a> by thousands more than expected this year.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s still a drop in the bucket \u2014 in terms of both <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/layoffs-one-chart-amazon-hiring-pandemic-great-resignation-2025-10\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">Amazon&#8217;s overall head count<\/a> and the broader economy \u2014 and there&#8217;s no guarantee that a wave of companies will follow suit. The overall labor market has been averaging 1.7 million layoffs a month, and we&#8217;re not in a recession yet.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>However, new jobs are hard to find these days, and companies are abuzz with reasons to trim head count. Amazon, IBM, and Microsoft have all cited AI in cuts. Plus, there&#8217;s general tariff uncertainty, and a need to correct for pandemic overhiring.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a swirl of factors that Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell is watching closely \u2014 especially as the government shutdown prevents the flow of official data.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You see a significant number of companies either announcing that they are not going to be doing much hiring or actually doing layoffs, and much of the time they&#8217;re talking about AI and what it can do,&#8221; he said, in a Wednesday press conference following the latest interest-rate cut.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It takes some time for it to get in there,&#8221; he added, referring to official government data, much of which is on hiatus during the government shutdown. &#8220;But we&#8217;re watching that really carefully.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Have you been laid off or a hiring manager who has seen the workplace change? Reach out to this reporter to share at <a target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/mailto:mhoff@businessinsider.com\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;click_type&quot;:&quot;other&quot;,&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;callout_box&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;outbound_click&quot;}\" rel=\" nofollow noopener\">mhoff@businessinsider.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>                More than 20 additional Amazon-sized events would send the job market into a scary place<\/p>\n<p>Firing contagion isn&#8217;t unprecedented. As <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/amazon-layoffs-ai-job-apocalypse-white-collar-workers-2025-10\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"noopener\">Aki Ito<\/a> wrote for Business Insider, Meta&#8217;s 11,000 job cuts in late 2022 kicked off a firing spree across Silicon Valley and Corporate America, eventually affecting more than 250,000 people.<\/p>\n<p>However, the economists we spoke to weren&#8217;t too worried yet.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Berger of Guild told Business Insider that these layoff waves over the past few years feel like &#8220;The Boy Who Cried Wolf.&#8221; He said it would take a lot of company layoffs &#8220;to move the meter.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>                      Related stories<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;These mass layoff announcements have not been representative of what most companies in the United States are doing; they&#8217;re outliers that get a lot of attention,&#8221; Berger said, adding, &#8220;maybe finally other firms start following their footstep, but so far it has not happened.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Even if hiring stays frozen, it would take a lot of Amazon-sized events to really set off alarm bells: During the Great Recession, for example, layoffs were regularly over 2 million a month \u2014 300,000 more than this year&#8217;s monthly average. That works out to around 20 Amazon layoff announcements&#8217; worth of cuts a month to make things really scary.<\/p>\n<p>Ernie Tedeschi of Yale&#8217;s Budget Lab said it would take a bit more.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Layoffs in good labor markets still often flirt with 2 million (especially now that our population is larger),&#8221; he wrote in an email to Business Insider. &#8220;But the one time we broke 2.5 million was the legit scary months of early 2009.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>As Dana Peterson, chief economist at The Conference Board, said, the tech sector&#8217;s churn doesn&#8217;t reflect the full job market.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;C-suites are much more strategic than that, and they&#8217;re not going to just start doing something because other firms are doing it without a reason,&#8221; Peterson said. &#8220;We need to remember that there are still several industries that are suffering from labor shortages.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>These industries, like healthcare, will continue to need to staff up, especially as more people retire.<\/p>\n<p>Claudia Sahm, the chief economist for New Century Advisors, said layoff announcements can at least give the direction, but not the magnitude, of what&#8217;s happening in the job market.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Layoff announcements, first and foremost, are about the companies,&#8221; Sahm said. &#8220;They&#8217;re business decisions. And so Amazon&#8217;s a very large company, but it is not the US labor market.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Have you been laid off or a hiring manager who has seen the workplace change? Reach out to this reporter to share at <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/mailto:mhoff@businessinsider.com\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;click_type&quot;:&quot;other&quot;,&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;outbound_click&quot;}\" rel=\" nofollow noopener\">mhoff@businessinsider.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Workers have been begging for the Great Freeze to thaw \u2014 but not this way. 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