{"id":369056,"date":"2025-11-10T11:25:07","date_gmt":"2025-11-10T11:25:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/369056\/"},"modified":"2025-11-10T11:25:07","modified_gmt":"2025-11-10T11:25:07","slug":"did-bayern-munich-have-a-plan-for-ryan-gravenberch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/369056\/","title":{"rendered":"Did Bayern Munich have a plan for Ryan Gravenberch?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Ryan Gravenberch\u2019s journey to Premier League star took a decidedly sour detour for one sullen season in the Bundesliga in 2022\/23.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Bayern Munich had just signed him as a teenage wonderkid from AFC Ajax. But after a year of scarcely playing him, Gravenberch wanted out, and Liverpool was more than happy to oblige.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cIt never felt like [Bayern] had a plan for him at all,\u201d English football pundit Andy Brassel said in extended, exclusive comments to <a href=\"https:\/\/talksport.com\/football\/3642034\/ryan-gravenberch-transfer-regret-bayern-munich-liverpool\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">talkSport<\/a>, noting that the Bavarians were \u2018chaotic at the time.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">This was the summer of 2022, a failed transfer class that also included Sadio Man\u00e9, Noussair Mazraoui, Matthijs de Ligt, and Mathys Tel. At the time Bayern was actually the picture of stability, with a front office apparently fulling backing second-year head coach Julian Nagelsmann, who was heavily involved in the recruitment process alongside sporting executives Hasan \u201cBrazzo\u201d Salihamid\u017ei\u0107 and Marco Neppe.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Brassel, however, is correct in pointing out that Bayern had big names established at the position, starting with Joshua Kimmich and Leon Goretzka. While Brassel identifies Kimmich\u2019s \u201cwing-backish leanings\u201d as something that leads Bayern to turning to Jo\u00e3o Palhinha, the Portuguese defensive mid or even his profile seemed far from a hot topic at the time \u2014 Nagelsmann\u2019s former RB Leipzig charges, Marcel Sabitzer, was the latest addition and \u201cpressing machine\u201d Konrad Laimer was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bavarianfootballworks.com\/2023\/3\/25\/23655652\/konrad-laimer-bayern-munich-free-transfer-julian-nagelsmann-firing-ryan-gravenberch-joshua-kimmich\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">soon to be next<\/a> in line.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">However, rather than as a No. 6 or even in central midfield at all, Gravenberch indeed was getting his sparse opportunities for Bayern in the even more crowded attacking midfield \u2014 that old haunt of Thomas M\u00fcller and subsequently Jamal Musiala. In Brassel\u2019s words, the young arrival from Ajax was a mere \u2018afterthought.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">That charge seems unfair to levy at Bayern. The German record champions were widely praised at the time for scooping up a talented and versatile youngster in midfield with a view to developing him for the future. Where that future lay, as with many young and less-established players, was naturally an open box, and maybe the player himself had something to do with it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Nagelsmann was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bavarianfootballworks.com\/2023\/3\/28\/23659748\/bayern-munich-ryan-gravenberch-frustrated-julian-nagelsmann-tuchel-brazzo-kimmich-goretzka-sabitzer\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">reported<\/a> to have harped on the youngster\u2019s defensive side of the game. His successor, Thomas Tuchel, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bavarianfootballworks.com\/2023\/9\/1\/23855236\/thomas-tuchel-ryan-gravenberch-bayern-munich-for-liverpool-transfer-rumors-kimmich-goretzka-brazzo\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">described<\/a> him as \u201ca box-to-box midfielder for me, an attacking player\u201d without a fit in Bayern\u2019s 4-2-3-1, who wanted to be a No. 8 in Liverpool\u2019s 4-3-3. So if Gravenberch\u2019s role disappeared, it didn\u2019t come before his recruitment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">And to his credit, Gravenberch did develop his defensive qualities \u2014 it\u2019s just not Bayern who is reaping the rewards on the pitch. He blossomed as a No. 6 in Arne Slot\u2019s Premier League-winning side last season \u2014 ironically, in a 4-2-3-1.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"_1eezmj01\" href=\"https:\/\/platform.bavarianfootballworks.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/24\/2025\/10\/gettyimages-2236399926.jpg?quality=90&amp;strip=all&amp;crop=0,1.32786565124,100,97.34426869752\" data-pswp-height=\"3323.3333333333335\" data-pswp-width=\"4985\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\"><img alt=\"LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND - SEPTEMBER 20: (THE SUN OUT, THE SUN ON SUNDAY OUT) Ryan Gravenberch of Liverpool celebrates scoring his team\u2019s first goal during the Premier League match between Liverpool and Everton at Anfield on September 20, 2025 in Liverpool, England. (Photo by Liverpool FC\/Liverpool FC via Getty Images)\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"fill\" class=\"w91vxg0\" style=\"position:absolute;height:100%;width:100%;left:0;top:0;right:0;bottom:0;color:transparent;background-size:cover;background-position:50% 50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-image:url(&quot;data:image\/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg' %3E%3Cfilter id='b' color-interpolation-filters='sRGB'%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3CfeColorMatrix values='1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 100 -1' result='s'\/%3E%3CfeFlood x='0' y='0' width='100%25' height='100%25'\/%3E%3CfeComposite operator='out' in='s'\/%3E%3CfeComposite in2='SourceGraphic'\/%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3C\/filter%3E%3Cimage width='100%25' height='100%25' x='0' y='0' preserveAspectRatio='none' style='filter: url(%23b);' href='data:image\/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABCAQAAAC1HAwCAAAAC0lEQVR42mN8+R8AAtcB6oaHtZcAAAAASUVORK5CYII='\/%3E%3C\/svg%3E&quot;)\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/gettyimages-2236399926.jpg\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND &#8211; SEPTEMBER 20: (THE SUN OUT, THE SUN ON SUNDAY OUT) Ryan Gravenberch of Liverpool celebrates scoring his team\u2019s first goal during the Premier League match between Liverpool and Everton at Anfield on September 20, 2025 in Liverpool, England. (Photo by Liverpool FC\/Liverpool FC via Getty Images) Liverpool FC via Getty Images<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">\u201cThe way he\u2019s been able to adapt at Liverpool firstly says that Bayern have done some sort of decent job with him, even if it wasn\u2019t enough to get them into their first team,\u201d Brassel concluded. \u201cIt\u2019s developed him in a way. He\u2019s a much better player than he was at Ajax by the time he arrived at Liverpool, simply through playing a few games and training with Bayern the whole time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 ls9zuh1\">Gravenberch\u2019s role is still evolving \u2014 this year, he\u2019s playing \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolfc.com\/news\/ryan-gravenberch-im-playing-more-freedom-and-im-really-happy\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">with more freedom<\/a>\u201d and not being asked to sit as deep in the Liverpool midfield.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1nfb3k4i _16w9vov1 _16w9vov0 _16w9vova ls9zuh1\">He\u2019s ready for it, too. Sometimes, it seems, you have to start sinking first to learn how to swim.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Ryan Gravenberch\u2019s journey to Premier League star took a decidedly sour detour for one sullen season in the&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":369057,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[45],"tags":[109079,108170,84584,221,62,67,132,68],"class_list":{"0":"post-369056","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-soccer","8":"tag-bayern-munich-alumni","9":"tag-bayern-munich-front-office","10":"tag-bayern-munich-transfer-news-and-rumors","11":"tag-soccer","12":"tag-sports","13":"tag-united-states","14":"tag-unitedstates","15":"tag-us"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@us\/115525159069407280","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/369056","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=369056"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/369056\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/369057"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=369056"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=369056"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=369056"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}