{"id":377500,"date":"2025-11-14T04:23:12","date_gmt":"2025-11-14T04:23:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/377500\/"},"modified":"2025-11-14T04:23:12","modified_gmt":"2025-11-14T04:23:12","slug":"ghosts-star-asher-grodman-on-trevor-learning-to-be-a-dad","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/377500\/","title":{"rendered":"Ghosts Star Asher Grodman On Trevor Learning To Be A Dad"},"content":{"rendered":"

\n\tSPOILER ALERT! This post contains details from Thursday night\u2019s episode of CBS<\/a>\u2018 Ghosts<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tLast week, CBS\u2019 Ghosts breached new territory by letting another living in on the secret that Sam (Rose McIver) can see ghosts. <\/p>\n

\n\tThe living in question was none other than Trevor\u2019s (Asher Grodman<\/a>) daughter Abby (Gideon Adlon), creating yet another heartwarming yet dysfunctional dynamic that plays out in Thursday night\u2019s episode, titled \u201cT-Daddy.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tYou see, Trevor is incredibly excited to spend time with his daughter once she accepts a job at Woodstone, but he has no idea how to be a father. <\/p>\n

\n\tHis ineptitude was on full display in last week\u2019s episode \u201cBring Your Daughter To Work Day,\u201d and it rears its head once again during the latest episode when he tries to convince Abby to pursue a degree in finance rather than follow her dreams and study French poetry in Paris.<\/p>\n

\n\tHe soon learns that, in fact, he\u2019s being a hypocrite, as Grodman explains to Deadline: \u201cHe\u2019s been utterly hypocritical, because [in] Trevor\u2019s life, he got to go to any party he wanted. He had all the money he wanted. He had access to anything he wanted. He got to sleep with all the women he wanted. He just lived this \u2018yes, and\u2026\u2019 life where every door was open to him.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tSo, how could he possibly deny his own daughter the same opportunity to live her life to the fullest?<\/p>\n

\n\tIn the interview below, Grodman discusses the rewarding two-episode arc for this character he\u2019s been building over the course of five seasons and what\u2019s in store for the remainder of Season 5.<\/p>\n

\n\tDEADLINE: How did you feel initially when you read the script and saw this two-episode arc unfolding for Trevor?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tASHER GRODMAN: <\/strong>It is fun. We kind of have this formula for the show. Things do run over the course of multiple episodes, but we do have this fresh start each week. So, I think we all really crave it when it happens, those opportunities to really build a longer story. Man, it\u2019s just such a good concept for a show. That\u2019s the bottom line. It\u2019s so rich. So when you get to have a little more time, you get to have a taste of just how rich it is.<\/p>\n

\n\tI was excited [about this storyline]. This is something that I really never thought we were going to do, because we do that fake out in \u201cPete\u2019s Wife\u201d at the beginning of Season 1, where Trevor\u2019s like, a DILF, and it\u2019s not a thing. So I was just very convinced that, \u2018Oh, we\u2019re never gonna do that. Why would we?\u2019 When they decided to, I think, in the beginning, I was trepidatious\u2026but it\u2019s been so fun, and Gideon is such a blast to work with. She\u2019s such a fun foil for Trevor. When you try new things, it\u2019s always an excitement and a trepidation, and the idea of someone who\u2019s not related to Sam or Jay knowing the secret, this is a first, and so this is a big moment for the show. So I guess I felt excited that Trevor was part of it. Because of his proximity to life as one of the youngest ghosts, there\u2019s a lot of story potential in that. So if Trevor has even a tenuous connection to the living world, it always yields fun results.<\/p>\n

\n\tDEADLINE: How do you think that strengthens Sam and Trevor\u2019s friendship, that she has let his family in on this secret now?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tGRODMAN: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s interesting, because it\u2019s not written as a thing for Trevor. It\u2019s written as \u2018we have to get out of [trouble].\u2019 Trevor, of course, has put them in all of this trouble. What Trevor did in the first episode where Abby shows up is kind is inexcusable. It\u2019s so bad, not only in that it doesn\u2019t take into account Sam at all, but that it\u2019s something that Sam cannot recover from. There is no excuse for what happens there. I think initially in the script, there was just this conversation that Sam had with Jay (Utkarsh Ambudkar) and Bela (Punam Patel) of like, \u2018I think the only option here is to tell them.\u2019 In the one chat I had with our showrunners about this, I was like, \u2018Can there just be a moment where Sam looks to Trevor before she does it, as though to ask him, and he says, do it,\u2019 just so he\u2019s kind of part of that reveal, because it\u2019s such a big thing. Then, It exists on like the living level but also at the level of the ghosts. So I was very grateful. They were down for that. I think in terms of how Trevor feels about it, it\u2019s also quite a big step in the Trevor-Sam relationship, which started on very, very rocky terms and has hit multiple rocks along the way. There\u2019s a real responsibility in revealing that information too, right?<\/p>\n

\n\tDEADLINE: Well, and now Sam has to serve as this conduit in this familial relationship as well.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tGRODMAN: <\/strong>Rose does such an amazing job at just like twisting herself in the pretzels to survive the mayhem that we\u2019re putting her through. Yeah, it\u2019s a really fun dynamic.<\/p>\n

\n\tDEADLINE: What is it that really makes Trevor come around to the idea that he should support his daughter in whatever she truly wants to pursue?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tGRODMAN: <\/strong>I guess there are a few things. One is that, I think in many ways, Trevor blew up this girl\u2019s life. She lost her mom, and Trevor, by thinking only about himself, took away her dad. For me, Abby\u2019s kind of the hero of that first episode, because she\u2019s able to pick up the broken pieces and reunite with her father. So I think there is a sense of responsibility that Trevor has in that. I think there\u2019s an awareness in the fact that Pinkus is a better father than Trevor would ever would have been, which I just think is a really fun thing to play. It\u2019s a unique thing to our show, because you\u2019re on the other side of this living-death boundary, and I think to have a discovery of your own limitations is kind of a fun thing to play. <\/p>\n

\n\tI think he genuinely loves his daughter. One of the biggest things is, Trevor\u2019s being a hypocrite. He\u2019s been utterly hypocritical, because [in] Trevor\u2019s life, he got to go to any party he wanted. He had all the money he wanted. He had access to anything he wanted. He got to sleep with all the women he wanted. He just lived this \u2018yes, and\u2026\u2019 life where every door was open to him. It\u2019s a reflection of what it was like in the \u201990s in finance and the tech boom. He represents this time and history, and there\u2019s an innocence to that too. The sad thing with Trevor is that it stopped so short, so soon. So I think when she\u2019s saying, \u2018I\u2019ve lost all these people. I don\u2019t want to leave anything behind. I want to live my life to the fullest,\u2019 I think Trevor is like, \u2018I\u2019m looking at a mirror.\u2019 It is a hard turn to make after he causes so much mayhem to suddenly just flip it. I think, in part, it has to do with that, and at the end, part has to do with his own responsibility and the damage that he\u2019s caused.<\/p>\n

\n\tDEADLINE: It is fun to see the ghosts slowly develop a bit more self awareness over the last five seasons through this connection to the living world. How have you sort of layered this character over five seasons to illustrate how some of those small growth moments impact Trevor long term?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tGRODMAN: <\/strong>That\u2019s a hard question. What the hell have I been doing? [Laughs]. I will say this: The primary play of the show, I think, is that Trevor is different than Isaac is different than Hetty is different than Pete,\u00a0and not only because different different time periods, but also their personalities. So part of the fun of the show is you learn all the lessons you learn, but then you snap right back to bad behavior, because that\u2019s where the combustibility of the show lies. All that being said, the greatest way I think Trevor has probably changed in the last five years \u2014 and this has to do with what he\u2019s experienced and what he\u2019s seen through with Sam and Jay and his relationship with them, but also his own power that now this is a guy who\u2019s got this very profitable job that opens up a whole other social network of things. He\u2019s got a daughter, connections with his parents, and his brother, all that stuff \u2014\u00a0is Trevor\u2019s afterlife has expanded. So I think, in terms of the layering you\u2019re talking about, it\u2019s almost just like more terrain that\u2019s been tread.<\/p>\n

\n\tI think it\u2019s less that he has changed his mind about things. I think it\u2019s just that he\u2019s broadened his mind about things. But\u2026I think he\u2019s always gonna be that guy who\u2019s competitive and wants to party and wants to live after life to its fullest. Now, there are just more threads that reveal new parts of him. \u201cTrevor\u2019s Pants\u201d is kind of a good example. I feel like that episode was a moment where everyone was like, \u2018Oh, Trevor is not a bad guy.\u2019 Well, for me, he was never a bad guy. So we\u2019re all learning more about the circumstances that got them here. <\/p>\n

\n\tDEADLINE: One of the best parts of this episode, to me, is that Trevor\u2019s attempts to woo his daughter are really pissing off Jay\u2019s kitchen staff, because they think it\u2019s Jay and Sam who have all this money. <\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tGRODMAN: <\/strong>It is such a good idea. Shout out to our writers for that. Trevor as a father, for me, is a kind of parallel thread to Trevor\u2019s relationship with Sam, in that this is a woman that he\u2019s objectified. This whole thing starts with, \u2018Why don\u2019t you kill yourself so we can have sex, and let\u2019s keep it casual, you know?\u2019 He\u2019s beginning to see Sam as this fully fledged person\u2026there\u2019s also this thing with Jay, which is so fun. There is this competitive thing, not so much for Trevor, it\u2019s a little more of a Jay thing. But there is this kind of enjoyment of, \u2018Well, I\u2019m flirting with your sister, and I\u2019m making quadruple the amount of money you are.\u2019 For someone like Trevor, who is so limited because he\u2019s this dead guy, the fact that he is able to amass this small fortune, it\u2019s just such a fun reversal. It\u2019s such a fun dynamic for Utkarsh to play, for me to play. And then us tying Rose up in knots, where she has to balance the chaos of the ghosts while trying to seem like a normal human being.<\/p>\n

\n\tDEADLINE: What should we expect from the rest of the season?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tGRODMAN: <\/strong>This was a big one, just because no one had ever shared the secret of the show with anyone who wasn\u2019t related to Sam and Jay. I feel like we kind of keep coming in with \u2014 I don\u2019t think we\u2019re breaking the concept at all \u2014 but I think we are forging new territory in a lot of episodes, and there\u2019s a lot of creative stuff that happens. God, you know, this is always that question. I\u2019m like, there\u2019s so much, but I don\u2019t want to spoil\u2026but what can I tell you?<\/p>\n

\n\tDEADLINE: There\u2019s a Christmas episode coming up, right?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tGRODMAN: <\/strong>There is a Christmas episode coming up. We\u2019ll do this thing occasionally, where the form matches the content a little bit. I know I sound like I\u2019m teaching a college class, but where the story is affecting how we\u2019re telling the story. A soft example of that is \u2018Trevor\u2019s Pants,\u2019 where the episode is weirdly like a murder mystery, but it\u2019s all about a missing pair of pants. A similar thing happens with the Christmas episode, where we\u2019re leaning on a classic Christmas movie concept in order to tell the story we\u2019re telling. It\u2019s a two-parter, and there\u2019s a possession, but it\u2019s kind of like a love letter to the concept of our show. I think fans are really gonna love it, because you get to see everything from a new point of view.<\/p>\n

\n\tDEADLINE: The possession episodes are always great, so I\u2019m looking forward to that one.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tGRODMAN: <\/strong>They\u2019re fun. What Rose and Utkarsh have been able to do in the past with these possessions, I\u2019m not saying that\u2019s where it\u2019s going this time, but their performances are always so great when they\u2019re mimicking us.<\/p>\n

\n\tDEADLINE: You\u2019re renewed through Season 6. Does that change how you\u2019ve approached this season? Does it take any sort of pressure off?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tGRODMAN: <\/strong>I mean, it\u2019s pretty wild. I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s pressure, but it is hard to be an actor. It\u2019s like winning the lottery. This stuff doesn\u2019t happen, especially now. Shows don\u2019t last this long. We have some amazing fans, and that\u2019s why we\u2019re still here. So when we got that double pickup, I think primarily it\u2019s like gratitude [for] just be able to do something you love with people you love, because our cast is amazing, our crew is amazing, and they don\u2019t get nearly as as much credit as they deserve. First of all, Zoe Sakellaropoulo, who\u2019s our production designer, deserves every award that they have. I think it\u2019s hard to comprehend it, because it just looks like it\u2019s a networks sitcom, right? But she is building Ancient Egypt in a matter of hours\u2026then she\u2019s knocking that down and building a forest. In Season 3, you may remember, Flower was in a well. We did that one week, and that was like 50 trees that they brought in, and who knows how many pounds of mulch and of dirt, and then that was wiped away. Days later, sand came in, and we built the tiki bar where Pete\u2019s in the Bahamas or Bermuda, I can\u2019t remember what it was [editor\u2019s note: it was St. Lucia]\u2026the design, the craftsmanship of that. It\u2019s really insane. They\u2019re going to, once again, this season, flex their muscles. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"SPOILER ALERT! This post contains details from Thursday night\u2019s episode of CBS\u2018 Ghosts. Last week, CBS\u2019 Ghosts breached…\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":377501,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30],"tags":[181316,15328,171,66759,173,67,132,68],"class_list":{"0":"post-377500","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-tv","8":"tag-asher-grodman","9":"tag-cbs","10":"tag-entertainment","11":"tag-ghosts","12":"tag-tv","13":"tag-united-states","14":"tag-unitedstates","15":"tag-us"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@us\/115546148362682490","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/377500","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=377500"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/377500\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/377501"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=377500"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=377500"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=377500"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}