{"id":384076,"date":"2025-11-17T00:27:19","date_gmt":"2025-11-17T00:27:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/384076\/"},"modified":"2025-11-17T00:27:19","modified_gmt":"2025-11-17T00:27:19","slug":"hochul-weighs-bill-that-would-keep-conductors-on-nyc-subways","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/384076\/","title":{"rendered":"Hochul weighs bill that would keep conductors on NYC Subways"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t\t\t<img width=\"1200\" height=\"855\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/subway-conductor-mta-marc-a-hermann.jpg\" class=\"crop-center wp-post-image\" alt=\"Subway conductor speaks with people in suit and police uniform\" decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\"   title=\"Will the MTA keep subway conductors on board all trains? A bill before Governor Hochul may seal their fate 1\"\/>\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>Conductors act as the eyes and ears of trains and platforms, ensuring that passengers get on and off subways safely and properly. As they scope out the station surroundings, engineers (motormen) are always in the first car, operating the train.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Marc A. Hermann \/ MTA<\/p>\n<p>As <a href=\"http:\/\/governor.ny.gov\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gov. Kathy Hochul<\/a> considers signing a bill to indefinitely keep two staff members on <a href=\"http:\/\/mta.info\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">NYC subways<\/a>, commuters might not realize that conductor-less trains are already rolling on some tracks within the system.<\/p>\n<p>Hochul, who is up for reelection next year, is facing a decision regarding a controversial bill passed by the state legislature that mandates the continued presence of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amny.com\/news\/mta-worker-slashed-bronx-subway-station\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">conductors<\/a> on nearly all of New York City\u2019s subway trains.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Supporters of the bill, which is called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nysenate.gov\/legislation\/bills\/2025\/S4091\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">S4091<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nysenate.gov\/legislation\/bills\/2025\/A4873\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">A4873<\/a> in the State Senate and Assembly, respectively, argue that a two-person crew is essential for public safety and operational reliability. However, some trains in the city, including the shuttle in Times Square and the G train at night, which connects Queens to Brooklyn, already run without conductors.<\/p>\n<p>John Samuelsen, Transit Workers Union International president, said trains that currently run with a one-person crew \u2014 just the engineer \u2014 only do so in \u201cextremely limited\u201d circumstances.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Times Square shuttle is a premier example,\u201d he said. \u201cIt\u2019s a shortened car and a straight run with no curves, in other words.\u201d<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-137802780\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-08-at-16.32.13.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"525\" title=\"Will the MTA keep subway conductors on board all trains? A bill before Governor Hochul may seal their fate 2\"  \/>TWU President John Samuelsen.Shane O\u2019Brien\n<\/p>\n<p>Conductors act as the eyes and ears of trains and platforms, ensuring that passengers get on and off subways safely and properly. As they scope out the station surroundings, engineers (motormen) are always in the first car, operating the train.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>If Hochul signs off on the state bill, it would essentially help enshrine into law the standard practice of having conductors present on most MTA trains.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>The governor has until the end of the year to sign off on the bill. amNewYork reached out to Hochul\u2019s office for comment on the bill; a representative said she is still reviewing the legislation.<\/p>\n<p>Even if she does not sign it, the status of conductors will not change; the bill is more of a measure to further cement the current rule into law.\n<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe want it enshrined into law that the two-person train crew is a matter of NYS law,\u201d Samuelsen said. \u201cBecause, every single time we go into contract negotiations, they try to eliminate the two-person train crew.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He added that the trains will \u201cnever lose\u201d conductors \u2014 adding that the union would sooner walk off the job than let it happen. Transit strikes have occurred before, despite such job actions being a violation of the state\u2019s Taylor Law.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019ll strike the NYC Transit system before we let the conductors be stripped from us,\u201d he said.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>Are subway conductors a redundancy?<\/p>\n<p>But an academic think tank criticized the need for a two-person crew on NYC Transit, which has the largest subway system in the United States, with 472 stations and 665 miles of track with trains that operate 24\/7.<\/p>\n<p>A <a href=\"https:\/\/transitcosts.com\/Train_Operations.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">study<\/a> from NYU\u2019s Marron Institute of Urban Management reviewed more than 400 trains in dozens of countries and found that fewer than 6.25% of the systems have two staffers on board. The international trains reviewed include those in Canada, Spain, Korea, Germany and Singapore.<\/p>\n<p>According to the study\u2019s researchers, the bill in question would \u201cundermine the spirit of the billions of dollars committed\u201d to improving signalization and operations.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNew York\u2019s elected officials should leave the train operations to the train operators,\u201d researchers wrote in the study. \u201cIf there is genuine concern about how best to operate trains, the MTA should respond to the legislature\u2019s questions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Samuelsen dismissed the study as \u201cgarbage.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAcademics think working people are stupid,\u201d he said. \u201cThey can make data lie for them. So they did a study of subway systems across the world. But there\u2019s no subway system in the world like the NYC subway system.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He stressed that NYC\u2019s trains have to navigate many high-speed curves on routes and even around curved platforms that are within the system\u2019s aging infrastructure.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAn overwhelming amount of systems across the world are more modern, they utilize tangent station platforms, tangent tracks, there are no high-speed curves,\u201d Samuelsen said, adding that the study is not a fair \u201capples-to-apples\u201d review of the NYC subway system from an engineering perspective.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>How do the riders feel?<\/p>\n<p>Riders agree with Samuelsen that conductors are not only needed on trains, but are a welcoming presence, especially as the city grapples with crime on the rails.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEspecially when it\u2019s late, when it\u2019s dark, when I\u2019m alone. I like knowing that person is there,\u201d one subway rider said in an <a href=\"https:\/\/abc7ny.com\/post\/governor-kathy-hochul-make-decision-slimming-subway-crew-staffing\/18155990\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Eyewitness News<\/a> article<\/p>\n<p>Simon, another commuter,\u00a0 told amNewYork that it is \u201ccommon sense\u201d to have conductors on trains.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s best to have two people on the train, due to all the issues that occur on the train, like accidents, assaults,\u201d he said. \u201cIt\u2019s common sense to have two people manning a train.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Samuelsen emphasized the extra level of safety that conductors provide for both commuters and staff, zeroing in on track fires.\n<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe amount of track fires, which cause evacuations in NYC, dwarfs the amount of track fires in other systems throughout the world just because of the unique nature of NYC\u2019s subway system,\u201d he explained.\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Conductors act as the eyes and ears of trains and platforms, ensuring that passengers get on and off&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":384077,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5122],"tags":[5229,12094,9904,405,403,5226,5225,5228,5227,183552,31145,183553,11900,178616,67,586,132,5230,68,2969],"class_list":{"0":"post-384076","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-new-york","8":"tag-america","9":"tag-gov-kathy-hochul","10":"tag-mta","11":"tag-new-york","12":"tag-new-york-city","13":"tag-newyork","14":"tag-newyorkcity","15":"tag-ny","16":"tag-nyc","17":"tag-nyc-subway-conductors","18":"tag-nyc-transit","19":"tag-train-conductors","20":"tag-transit","21":"tag-twu-john-samuelsen","22":"tag-united-states","23":"tag-united-states-of-america","24":"tag-unitedstates","25":"tag-unitedstatesofamerica","26":"tag-us","27":"tag-usa"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@us\/115562209440449504","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/384076","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=384076"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/384076\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/384077"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=384076"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=384076"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=384076"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}