{"id":433858,"date":"2025-12-08T18:53:13","date_gmt":"2025-12-08T18:53:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/433858\/"},"modified":"2025-12-08T18:53:13","modified_gmt":"2025-12-08T18:53:13","slug":"are-scottsdale-drivers-the-worst-in-the-valley-locals-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/433858\/","title":{"rendered":"Are Scottsdale drivers the worst in the Valley? Locals debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t\t\t<img width=\"1024\" height=\"603\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/arizona-highway-getty.webp.jpeg\" class=\"article-thumbnail-image wp-post-image\" alt=\"bumper to bumper traffic on a highway\" decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\"  \/><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\tDriving in the Valley can be both infuriating and terrifying.\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>Jeff Topping\/Getty Images<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Tis the season to complain about drivers in the Valley, and Scottsdale\u2019s Reddit users are in the holiday spirit.<\/p>\n<p>Just about anywhere you go, people will swear that the drivers in their city or state <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/www.phoenixnewtimes.com\/news\/where-phoenix-ranks-worst-cities-to-drive-us-40611645\/\">are the worst<\/a> \u2014 but the numbers in the Phoenix metro area might just back it up.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps it\u2019s the car-centric sprawl of the Valley or the carefree attitude that comes with basking in the sunshine, but driving here is <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/www.phoenixnewtimes.com\/news\/stretch-of-phoenix-highway-most-dangerous-roads-in-us-40616519\/\">notoriously dangerous<\/a>. About a year ago, an <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/www.azfamily.com\/2024\/10\/15\/why-is-phoenix-1-traffic-deaths-compared-other-large-cities\/\">Arizona\u2019s Family analysis<\/a> found that Phoenix had the worst traffic fatality rate in the country among large cities. Another report found that Phoenix had the <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/www.valuepenguin.com\/pedestrian-fatalities-cities-study\">fourth-highest pedestrian killing rate<\/a> in the U.S. between 2019 and 2023.<\/p>\n<p>As for its little sister, Scottsdale, users on the city\u2019s subreddit made the case that the infamously glitzy and wealthy locale may have the worst drivers in all the Valley. In a <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/Scottsdale\/comments\/1pfrblq\/yall_need_to_drive_better_and_be_better_on_the\/?share_id=FUwuHsJqqYF6zUOWaNPlF&amp;utm_content=1&amp;utm_medium=android_app&amp;utm_name=androidcss&amp;utm_source=share&amp;utm_term=1\">thread posted on Saturday<\/a>, several posters shared memorable stories of the most glaring bad driving behavior or shared theories on what made the collective of drivers in Scottsdale so bad.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong><strong>This year, make your gift count \u2013<\/strong><\/strong><br \/><strong><strong>Invest in local news that matters.<\/strong><\/strong>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p class=\"fundraising-thermometer-body\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tOur work is funded by readers like you who make voluntary gifts because they value our work and want to see it continue. Make a contribution today to help us reach our $30,000 goal!\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve lived in AZ all my life, but much more recently started working in Scottsdale,\u201d one user wrote. \u201cIt\u2019s the craziest thing to me. Stop signs don\u2019t exist, people driving the wrong direction down one-way roads, roundabouts literally break people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Plenty of people blamed \u201csnowbirds\u201d \u2014 the influx of residents who only reside in the Valley during the warm winter months \u2014 for both the driving and the sentiment. That would explain what prompted the Reddit discussion in December.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAh yes the Classic snow bird season post. Remember our population grows by 300,000 to 400,000 during this time of year,\u201d one user said. \u201cIt won\u2019t be till post WM open that things get better. Turn on your dash cam folks.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Another added that the widespread reckless driving \u201cfeels like a mix of the snowbirds and people on their phones.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Some think things are getting even worse.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI was born here and have lived here in all different stages of my life so far,\u201d one person wrote. \u201cThe roads don\u2019t feel safe at this point half the time between construction, snow birds under the speed limit, and every lifted pickup truck driver with manhood issues\/person under 25 years old going felony speed everywhere they go. It genuinely sucks.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Another Scottsdale resident agreed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve lived here my whole life and it just gets worse and worse every year,\u201d they wrote. \u201cI\u2019ll never forget the time a few years ago I was driving north on the 101 near Via de Ventura around 10 am and glanced over to see the driver next to me just casually eating a big ceramic bowl of oatmeal, no hands on the wheel.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At least that driver was following a healthy diet.<\/p>\n<p>One user requested that drivers on State Route 101 stop busting ass like they\u2019re \u201cauditioning for Mad Max Fury Road,\u201d a perfectly apt comparison for the driving culture in Scottsdale.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou can be driving 80+ in the HOV lane and people will get right on your ass \u2014 I\u2019m talking less than 3 feet \u2014 and start honking and flashing their lights. It\u2019s insane!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So, if you\u2019re heading into Scottsdale this winter, keep your head on a swivel. You\u2019ve been warned.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Driving in the Valley can be both infuriating and terrifying. 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