{"id":435889,"date":"2025-12-09T15:47:18","date_gmt":"2025-12-09T15:47:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/435889\/"},"modified":"2025-12-09T15:47:18","modified_gmt":"2025-12-09T15:47:18","slug":"jacob-elordi-and-gwyneth-paltrow-on-frankenstein-and-marty-supreme","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/435889\/","title":{"rendered":"Jacob Elordi and Gwyneth Paltrow on &#8216;Frankenstein&#8217; and Marty Supreme"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tIt doesn\u2019t matter how high you climb the Hollywood ladder, there\u2019s always room to grow.\u00a0 Ask <a href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/t\/gwyneth-paltrow\/\" id=\"auto-tag_gwyneth-paltrow\" data-tag=\"gwyneth-paltrow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gwyneth Paltrow<\/a>, the perpetual A-list star and fashion icon whose 1999 best actress win for \u201cShakespeare in Love\u201d still reverberates in Oscar history. These days, Paltrow has been plenty busy as the CEO of the lifestyle brand Goop. But later this month, she ends her semi-retirement from acting to play a seasoned movie star in 1950s New York opposite Timoth\u00e9e Chalamet\u2019s ping-pong phenom in \u201cMarty Supreme,\u201d directed by Josh Safdie.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/>Her anticipated return to screen comes as <a href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/t\/jacob-elordi\/\" id=\"auto-tag_jacob-elordi\" data-tag=\"jacob-elordi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jacob Elordi<\/a>, on an astounding run as Hollywood\u2019s new \u201cit boy,\u201d discovered his own footing as the creature in Guillermo del Toro\u2019s \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/t\/frankenstein\/\" id=\"auto-tag_frankenstein\" data-tag=\"frankenstein\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Frankenstein<\/a>.\u201d Elordi, 28, shares with Paltrow how he found the violence and the grace to play the classic movie monster, as she imparts stories from the cinema\u2019s wild west (aka the \u201890s) and the advice she would have given herself at his age.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gwyneth Paltrow:<\/strong> It\u2019s so nice to be here talking to you. My children are very jealous. My son looks up to you; my daughter is in love with you. I probably will be too, by the end of this.\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Jacob Elordi:<\/strong> Well, that\u2019s the thing you always get. Every person says, \u201cOh, my mom loves you. My daughter loves you. My girlfriend loves you.\u201d It\u2019s never, \u201cI love you.\u201d\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> I love you, Jacob. My first entr\u00e9e to you and your incredible talent was \u201cEuphoria.\u201d My kids cautioned me against watching it, but you are so good in that show. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> Thank you for saying. Was it alarming as a parent? It seems so extreme to me. I don\u2019t how it\u2019s relatable.\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> I wasn\u2019t alarmed. My kids weren\u2019t going down those paths. Some things they felt were right \u2014 the relational and social media aspects. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> I finished filming a new season just recently, and it\u2019s a completely different thing.\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> Is your character nicer?\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> I really do think so. Whether it works or not, I don\u2019t know. There\u2019s a chance that what I\u2019ve done is not good. So \u201cMarty Supreme\u201d is a very good movie. Were you familiar with \u201cUncut Gems\u201d?\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> I had not been involved in the world of cinema for a while, and I wasn\u2019t up on who the great new people are. I watched \u201cUncut Gems\u201d and thought it was so bold. Josh Safdie has such a specific style. I met with him and he\u2019s just awesome at creating worlds in his head.\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> Have you always approached movies that way, filmmaker first? Your list! I mean: Paul Thomas Anderson, Alfonso Cuaron, Steven Spielberg, David Fincher. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> Wes Anderson, Anthony Minghella. <br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> Was that conscious? I don\u2019t really know what your relationship is to movies. You grew up around them. How do you end up in a spot where you\u2019ve worked with every single person in the recent history of cinema who has had something to say. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> I got really lucky. Paul Thomas Anderson had never made a movie [before \u201cHard Eight\u201d]. There were a lot of firsts and directors I got in their early careers. Wes, for example, I was almost in \u201cRushmore,\u201d but it didn\u2019t work out. I was very excited to be in \u201cThe Royal Tennenbaums\u201d with that amazing cast. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> That character is stamped forever. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> She defined a certain genre of cool girl \u2014 disaffected, smoking in the bathtub, writing a play. It\u2019s amazing. But I also made a bunch of weird choices, too, and some not-so-good movies. What about you? \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> I first booked this movie \u201cSwinging Safari,\u201d about the \u201970s in Australia. Then I booked this Netflix film called \u201cThe Kissing Booth\u201d when I was around 18. I came to America and thought I was really about to do something, and I get to Los Angeles.\u00a0And it was \u2026.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\t<strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> It can be sobering.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\t<strong>Elordi:<\/strong> Yes. Two years after that I got \u201cEuphoria.\u201d It\u2019s not a long time in the scheme of things but for me it was like nails on a chalkboard.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\t<strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> Who gave you the idea that a movie career in Hollywood was possible?\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\t<strong>Elordi:<\/strong> I was quite loud as a kid, which is every actors\u2019 thing. They didn\u2019t know what to do with me. There was a teacher at school, Mrs. McMahon, who decided to cast me as the cat in \u201cThe Cat in the Hat\u201d musical.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\t<strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> You nailed it. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/wp-content\/themes\/pmc-variety-2020\/assets\/public\/lazyload-fallback.gif\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Jacob-Elordi-Variety-Actors-on-Actors.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-lazy- data-lazy- height=\"1024\" width=\"683\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tAlexi Lubomirski for Variety<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\t<strong>Elordi:<\/strong> As soon as I was singing and dancing with the big hat on, I knew that that was what I wanted to do. I also saw Heath Ledger in \u201cThe Dark Knight\u201d when I was about 12. I realized he was from Australia and then the cog started turning that this could be a viable thing for me to do.\u00a0 \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> You are so fantastic in \u201cFrankenstein.\u201d I was so impressed by your physicality \u2014 it was almost like watching a ballet dancer, how you emerged into this creature. This dynamic between incredible tenderness and violence. I was really impressed. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> Thank you. My sister is a ballet dancer, so I\u2019ve grown up around that kind of movement. It was a reference point for how to use my body. I\u2019d dreamed of working with Guillermo del Toro since I saw \u201cPan\u2019s Labyrinth\u201d as a kid. Later, I was shooting this movie \u201cPriscilla,\u201d where I play Elvis Presley, so I had a kind of unnatural pluck and confidence. The hair and makeup team told me they were going to do \u201cFrankenstein\u201d next, and I remember I said, \u201cI\u2019m supposed to be in that movie.\u201d \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/>They asked if I was serious, because they already had a different actor. I laughed it off as a joke, and then a year later the actor dropped out.\u00a0The hair person went to Guillermo and said, \u201cI don\u2019t know if you know who this is, but maybe you should think about it.\u201d \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> What\u2019s so interesting about being an artist is that you feel lucky enough to make a living at your art, your passion, but it can become work.\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> It does start to become a job. I used to be one of those people who thought, \u201cThe worst day on a movie set is still better than the best day in the real world.\u201d And that\u2019s bullshit. That\u2019s a fucking lie. But it was nice to have [a project like \u201cFrankenstein\u201d] to ignite that feeling again. You took a seven-year break, was that a feeling of \u201cI have to get away from this?\u201d\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> I felt a lot of loneliness when I was doing it in my 20s. I didn\u2019t know myself well yet, and I was traveling all the time. I needed to grow up and understand who I really was, and I got a lot of those answers through my family. Then I started a business. \u201cMarty Supreme\u201d came about in an incredible way because our boys were going off [to college] and I was left with this feeling of shock and disbelief. Like, \u201cWho am I?\u201d Then I met Josh Safdie and I knew this would be worthwhile. This felt like the movies we used to make in the \u201890s.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\t<strong>Elordi:<\/strong> You have this moment in the film when you step out on to a stage and are facing away from the audience, then the light comes up and you say your first line and the audience erupts. I just started weeping. The look on your face was so sincere and sad at the same time. This whole person\u2019s life was in the cheer of that audience. Was there an old movie star transatlantic accent on your character? \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> I was watching Hitchcock movies from the \u201850s and people really did speak with that transatlantic thing. I brought that in a little bit. So, the internet is abuzz about \u201cWuthering Heights.\u201d\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> They should be. Although, someone will pull their phone up and I\u2019m like, \u201cGet that away from me.\u201d When was the last time you were on stage?\u00a0[What led me to director Emerald Fennell] was \u201cSaltburn.\u201d What\u2019s interesting is when I read \u201cSaltburn,\u201d my thought on it was, \u201cI have to be Jude Law in this movie because of \u2018Ripley\u2019.\u201d But then I realized these aren\u2019t similar at all. I shouldn\u2019t use that as a reference. When was the last time you were on stage? <\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/wp-content\/themes\/pmc-variety-2020\/assets\/public\/lazyload-fallback.gif\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Gwyneth-Paltrow-Variety-Actors-on-Actors.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-lazy- data-lazy- height=\"1024\" width=\"683\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tAlexi Lubomirski for Variety<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\t<strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> Too long ago. It was when I did \u201cProof\u201d in London in 2002. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> Do you think you\u2019ll ever make it back?\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> I would love to. I promised my mother [Blythe Danner] I would do a play at some point. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> I would love to watch you on stage, especially after that moment in \u201cMarty Supreme.\u201d\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> Hopefully my reviews wouldn\u2019t be as bad as my character. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> It\u2019s so crippling, when the camera cuts to you crying over that review. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> The writers actually scripted out the entire review, and it\u2019s so brutal. Yeah, that would make me sob.\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> Timoth\u00e9e is incredible in \u201cMarty Supreme.\u201d He\u2019s brilliant. He\u2019s genuinely unbelievable. And there\u2019s the final frame of him is one of the more devastating things. You\u2019ve worked with some of the greatest male movie stars in the history of cinema. How has that experience working with someone that is sort of the age of these guys that you worked with in the \u201890s?\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> It was great. I wasn\u2019t so familiar with his work either, so I did a little bit of a deep dive. He absolutely blew me away. The bravery around playing somebody with no moral center. Most times when an actor plays someone unlikeable, you can see them couching [it] \u2014 but he just drives through it. He\u2019s just a dick.<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong>\u00a0He makes me feel good about the state of things. If people keep putting care into movies in each generation, you can keep them alive. My great fear is that movies lose their currency, and we don\u2019t have that form of storytelling anymore.\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> It\u2019s changed quite a bit, and the business models have changed and the way it\u2019s all commercialized. Does that feel specifically different [to you]?\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elodri:<\/strong> It feels very different. I feel like we grew up looking at your generation of actors and devoured all of your movies and that was the dream. Those were the movies we wanted to make. Then, I feel like we all kind of finally got an audition, booked the thing and stepped out into Hollywood and it\u2019s like \u2026 \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> Where did they all go? But I feel something like [\u201cMarty Supreme\u201d] happens in the face of hyper-commercialization, that you start to have real artists coming and punching through. \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong>\u00a0I agree with you. That makes me glad. I have one more question. You won an Academy Award for \u201cShakespeare in Love.\u201d Did it change anything in terms of how you view movies, or the way that you do the work? It does mean a great deal. Even in a business sense as an actor, something changes in people\u2019s perception of you and your work. I imagine there\u2019s pressure.\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong>\u00a0It felt like something immense had happened. There was this massive energetic shift,\u00a0and it was very overwhelming. I was only 26.\u00a0If I could go back and talk to myself at that age, I would just say, \u201cTake your time.\u201d Just really get in touch with who you are to the greatest extent possible, and make decisions from that place. Slow down and work with great people, and don\u2019t beat yourself up so much along the way.\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Elordi:<\/strong> It can feel like saying \u201cyes\u201d or \u201cno\u201d to a movie is saying \u201cyes\u201d or \u201cno\u201d to being alive. Do I want to live or do I want to die? That\u2019s what the stakes can feel like sometimes. Then it\u2019s just so clearly not the case. If you step outside of Los Angeles or New York for 20 minutes, you realize it\u2019s such a concentrated \u2026 \u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<br \/><strong>Paltrow:<\/strong> Bubble.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tProduction: Emily Ullrich; Agency: Nevermind Agency\t<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"It doesn\u2019t matter how high you climb the Hollywood ladder, there\u2019s always room to grow.\u00a0 Ask Gwyneth Paltrow,&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":435890,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[201837,171,65100,54425,65229,67,132,68],"class_list":{"0":"post-435889","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-entertainment","8":"tag-actors-on-actors","9":"tag-entertainment","10":"tag-frankenstein","11":"tag-gwyneth-paltrow","12":"tag-jacob-elordi","13":"tag-united-states","14":"tag-unitedstates","15":"tag-us"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@us\/115690397185826358","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/435889","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=435889"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/435889\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/435890"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=435889"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=435889"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=435889"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}