{"id":438222,"date":"2025-12-10T16:40:22","date_gmt":"2025-12-10T16:40:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/438222\/"},"modified":"2025-12-10T16:40:22","modified_gmt":"2025-12-10T16:40:22","slug":"oracles-earnings-unlikely-to-get-the-giddy-reaction-they-did-last-time","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/438222\/","title":{"rendered":"Oracle\u2019s earnings unlikely to get the giddy reaction they did last time"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">It\u2019s probably not going to be like last time. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">Back in September, when <a class=\"inline-stock css-1iix00n\" href=\"https:\/\/robinhood.com\/us\/en\/stocks\/ORCL\/?source=sherwood\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Oracle<\/a> reported that its AI-related sales backlog had more than quadrupled to $455 billion \u2014 largely due to deals with OpenAI \u2014 the stock exploded, rising more than 20%, creating billions in wealth within minutes. The celebration lasted into the next day, when Oracle had its best session <a href=\"https:\/\/sherwood.news\/markets\/oracle-stock-backlog-forecast-best-day-1992\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"css-uubm0\" rel=\"noopener\">since 1992<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">Somewhere in that crowded hour, Oracle\u2019s cofounder and chairman briefly became <a href=\"https:\/\/sherwood.news\/markets\/oracles-rally-briefly-made-larry-ellison-worlds-richest-person-elon-musk\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"css-uubm0\" rel=\"noopener\">the world\u2019s richest person<\/a>, temporarily overtaking <a class=\"inline-stock css-1iix00n\" href=\"https:\/\/robinhood.com\/us\/en\/stocks\/TSLA\/?source=sherwood\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tesla<\/a> CEO Elon Musk.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">But that was then. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">In the intervening three months, Oracle shares have lost all of their OpenAI-related value \u2014 and more \u2014 in a roughly $300 billion incineration of shareholder wealth. Effectively, the market is now valuing the same giant backlog of AI-related deals it cheered wildly back in September as a slight negative for the company today. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">Of course, other giant tech companies closely tied to AI \u2014 for instance, <a class=\"inline-stock css-1iix00n\" href=\"https:\/\/robinhood.com\/us\/en\/stocks\/MSFT\/?source=sherwood\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Microsoft<\/a> \u2014 have experienced ups and down over that period as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">But the half-trillion-dollar round-trip journey for Oracle underscores how the AI investment boom has transformed the company from a cash-spewing (but dull as dishwater) vendor of cloud services and corporate software into a barometer of investor sentiment at the epicenter of AI \u2014 just as the market\u2019s mood has shifted from giddy optimism to show-me skepticism.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">For the record, Wall Street is expecting Oracle\u2019s top- and bottom-line results for its fiscal second quarter to be quite strong, with sales predicted to rise 15.2% to $16.19 billion. Adjusted earnings per share are expected to jump 11.6% to <b>$1.64<\/b>, near the top of previously issued guidance of between $1.61 and $1.65. Guidance on Q3 numbers is likewise supposed to be healthy, according to consensus estimates compiled by FactSet. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">\u201cInvestors are looking for more than that,\u201d says Mark Moerdler, an analyst covering Oracle for Bernstein Research in New York, saying that investors have gone from excitement over Oracle\u2019s exposure to AI growth to worries about \u201cimplications of all of this business and whether it is a good, healthy business.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">At current course and speed, Oracle plans to boost its capex investments in servers, networking equipment, and the semiconductors needed for data centers, which will transform its business into a cash-consuming monster. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">Forecasts call for the business to burn <a href=\"https:\/\/sherwood.news\/markets\/technology-giants-dont-look-like-they-used-to-as-the-asset-light-era-fades\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"css-uubm0\" rel=\"noopener\">roughly $17 billion<\/a> a year by 2027, even as profits are expected to surge. This is part of the reason why <a href=\"https:\/\/sherwood.news\/markets\/markets-are-getting-more-concerned-about-oracles-ai-data-center-debt\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"css-uubm0\" rel=\"noopener\">doubts about Oracle\u2019s<\/a> ability to pay its debts have been creeping into the bond market. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">\u201cThe Street wants clarity on the whole issue of capex and free cash flow,\u201d Moerdler said, adding that any comfort Oracle can give investors that capex expenditures could be curtailed, perhaps by plans to rent or lease data center equipment from vendors rather than buying it up front, would be a positive for the stock. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">The other key issue facing Oracle, however, is its tight entanglement with OpenAI.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">\u201cThe Street doesn\u2019t know at this moment in time how to gauge how successful OpenAI will be,\u201d Moerdler said, noting how concerns about the competitive position of the company have grown since the introduction of Alphabet\u2019s latest Gemini model, which has been widely praised and seems to be <a href=\"https:\/\/sherwood.news\/tech\/openai-races-to-release-updated-chatgpt-in-response-to-gemini-the-wsj\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"css-uubm0\" rel=\"noopener\">quickly closing the gap<\/a> with <a href=\"https:\/\/sherwood.news\/tech\/chatgpt-reaches-nearly-900-million-weekly-active-users\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"css-uubm0\" rel=\"noopener\">OpenAI\u2019s ChatGPT<\/a>.      <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">Not to put too fine a point on it, but that could become a big problem for Oracle over time. OpenAI has signed deals to pay Oracle some $300 billion for cloud computing capacity that Oracle is right now borrowing and investing to build. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">If OpenAI fails, or can\u2019t come up with the cash for those payments when the time comes, Oracle could be left holding the bag, a nightmare scenario for investors. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">Such concerns about OpenAI, as well as the outlook for capex spending to crater cash flows, are big parts of why Oracle shares have slumped so sharply over the last few months, Moerdler says. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-fiuwhu\">\u201cTo really have the stock come back, they need to start to clarify some of these concerns,\u201d\u00a0he said.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"It\u2019s probably not going to be like last time. 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