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By Rachel Becker<\/a>, CalMatters<\/p>\n

This story was originally published by CalMatters<\/a>. Sign up<\/a> for their newsletters.<\/p>\n

As firefighters battled catastrophic fires in Los Angeles last January, one question reverberated across the country: Where was the water?\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

The question came from wealthy developer Rick Caruso<\/a> and then-President-elect Donald Trump<\/a>, from reporters and residents. It prompted executive orders<\/a> and state<\/a> and federal investigations<\/a>. Once the fires were more ash than flame, the Trump administration used a water shortage to justify its baffling move<\/a> to release vital summer irrigation supplies from two reservoirs that do not supply Los Angeles.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cI will demand that this incompetent governor allow beautiful, clean, fresh water to FLOW INTO CALIFORNIA!\u201d Trump posted on social media<\/a>, referencing Gov. Gavin Newsom, as the fires raged across L.A. \u201cOn top of it all, no water for fire hydrants, not (sic) firefighting planes. A true disaster!\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

A team of researchers, led by Gregory Pierce<\/a>, director of the UCLA Water Resources Group, set out to uncover whether the intense focus on water supply meant that dry hydrants had uniquely hampered the Palisades firefight, or whether this was a common occurrence.\u00a0<\/p>\n

In a policy brief published Monday<\/a>, the researchers used media reports to confirm that when fires burn urban areas, hydrant flows often sputter out \u2014 the result of lost pressure as burnt homes hemorrhage water and too many hoses simultaneously draw on a limited supply.<\/p>\n

\u201cFire hydrant performance in the Palisades seems to represent the rule rather than the exception,\u201d the report says. \u201cThe only apparent, factual difference between the Palisades Fire and its comparators is that hydrant performance did not make the headlines of news stories covering the other fires.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u2018The rule rather than the exception\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n

The policy brief echoes the findings of a recent state investigation<\/a> into water supply during the Palisades Fire.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cEven though there was plenty of water available in the system,\u201d state investigators wrote, \u201cit was not possible to pump enough water to the fire area all at once to meet the flow rate demand created by the leaking water from already destroyed structures and high water use from hydrants.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

Even if the much-implicated empty Santa Ynez reservoir had been full, \u201cthe hydrants could not have maintained pressure,\u201d the state report said.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\""Three\"Firefighters work to put out a fire in the rubble of a home that burned down on Pacific Coast Highway near Malibu, as a result of the Palisades Fire. Jan. 9, 2025. Photo by Ted Soqui for CalMatters<\/p>\n

Together, the Eaton<\/a> and Palisades fires<\/a> destroyed thousands of structures, caused tens of billions of dollars in damage<\/a>, killed at least 31 people and likely contributed to hundreds more deaths<\/a>.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

With smoke still in the air, experts<\/a>, state officials<\/a>, reporters<\/a> and the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power<\/a> raced to fact-check claims that water management resulting in dry hydrants was uniquely responsible for the devastation. The repeated refrain: urban water systems aren\u2019t built to put out wildfires.<\/p>\n

But the spark had caught. And as residents reeled from the devastating losses of entire communities and grasped for explanations, a sense of betrayal \u2014 that water and their hydrants had failed to save Los Angeles from the flames \u2014 set in.\u00a0<\/p>\n

By the end of March, nearly a third of 2,000 Los Angeles County residents surveyed by the USC Dornsife Center for Economic and Social Research<\/a> blamed poor water management as the biggest contributor to the wildfires. Only slightly more \u2014 36% \u2014 said arson<\/a>.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

Another survey by Probolsky Research reported that more than a quarter of 1,000 likely primary election voters in California were surprised to hear \u2014 or flat out didn\u2019t believe \u2014 that fire hydrants are not designed to fight major wildfires.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cSometimes all you need is one idea to catch on a little bit and start spreading. And then once it starts to go viral, it gets accepted by lots of people,\u201d said Lisa Fazio<\/a>, an associate professor of psychology and human development at Vanderbilt University who studies how people learn information.\u00a0<\/p>\n

During disasters, she said, \u201cpeople are hunting for that understanding and sense of control.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

It\u2019s happened before \u2014 many times.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

In fire after fire, the researchers found reports of lost water pressure.<\/p>\n

Paul Lowenthal, division chief fire marshal with the Santa Rosa Fire Department, remembers when the Tubbs Fire roared through Santa Rosa in 2017, destroying thousands of homes<\/a> and killing 22 people<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cWhen we had the loss of pressure in Fountaingrove, there was this immediate sense of, \u2018The firefighters didn’t have the water that they needed to fight the fire,\u2019\u201d he said. \u201cAnd I think we saw some of the same concerns bubble up out of Los Angeles.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

But Lowenthal said the true picture was much more complicated: In the hills, as the fire was pushing into the city, firefighters were too busy getting people out to even use the hydrants.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cIt was all just purely saving lives,\u201d he said. By the time the winds had died down on the valley floor enough to fight back the flames, he said, the city\u2019s water system had restored enough pressure to hydrants.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Kevin Phillips<\/a>, district manager of Paradise Irrigation District, said that some hydrants in the town of Paradise lost pressure during the 2018 Camp Fire, which remains the deadliest<\/a> and most destructive<\/a> wildfire in California history.\u00a0<\/p>\n

When a wildfire destroys a town, like the fires in Paradise or the Palisades, Phillips said, each burned home bleeds water out of the system \u2014 sapping its pressure.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cEvery one of those homes that gets burned is an open sore to the outside,\u201d Phillips said. \u201cYour system basically is dying as every one of those homes are being destroyed.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

William Sapeta, fire chief of the Lake County Fire Protection District, agreed. \u201cThe Eaton and the Palisades fires really drew a lot of attention to the capabilities of water for fire suppression,\u201d he said. \u201cYet we experienced in the Camp Fire<\/a>, the Valley Fire, the Carr Fire<\/a> \u2014 all of these fires have exceeded municipalities\u2019 ability to provide water for fire suppression.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

New requirements<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hydrants and water supply have drawn public scrutiny<\/a> in Ventura County, where two major wildfires in less than a decade spurred reports of hydrant outages and lost water pressure<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n

The fires in Assemblymember Steve Bennett\u2019s<\/a> home county, one of which burned homes on his own street, prompted new legislation. Signed into law this year<\/a>, Bennett\u2019s bill sets new requirements for certain water suppliers in fire-prone parts of Ventura County to harden their systems and obtain enough backup power or alternate water supplies to keep water pumps running for 24 hours<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cYou ought to be able to have a system that can at least help you put out the small little ember, the bush that catches on fire \u2014 so that you can get it before the house catches on fire,\u201d the Democrat from Oxnard said. Having enough to do that, he added, should be the minimum requirement.\u00a0<\/p>\n

But some water suppliers fear they won\u2019t be able to withstand the financial costs of meeting the law\u2019s requirements, and worry about the potential liability if they can\u2019t.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cYou have smaller water systems that don’t even have the capacity or funding to deal with all those things,\u201d said Daryl Osby<\/a>, former Los Angeles County Fire Department chief and now vice president of emergency preparedness, safety & security for California Water Service, an investor-owned water utility.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

A new frontier<\/strong><\/p>\n

ASU\u2019s Faith Kearns<\/a>, a co-author of the policy brief, has chronicled the convergence of fire and water supplies before<\/a>, and said the growing scale and devastation of these fires are resetting public expectations for urban water systems.<\/p>\n

\u201cThis feels like the new frontier we’re discussing around wildfire, but (it\u2019s) just part and parcel of California\u2019s really complex, ongoing wildfire issues,\u201d Kearns said.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Climate change-fueled, extreme conditions further limit what water and water systems are capable of in response to fire \u2014 like in Santa Rosa, where Lowenthal said firefighters were too focused on saving lives to tap the hydrants in the hills.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cYou might have the best water system in the world, and you still might not have conditions that are safe for fire personnel to go into,\u201d Kearns said.\u00a0<\/p>\n

The new UCLA policy brief doesn\u2019t interrogate why the hydrants became such a flashpoint in the Palisades Fire, but Pierce has some hypotheses. Preliminary data for a forthcoming study suggests it\u2019s political \u2014 that support for Trump drives the belief that water management was to blame for the fires.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cLocal influencers, political voices \u2014 all the way up to the president and a lot of people in between \u2014 quickly seized on the fact that some of the fire hydrants in the Palisades Fire didn\u2019t have water,\u201d Pierce said.\u00a0<\/p>\n

That gained a snowball effect. \u201cThe same thing kept getting repeated, and then people just thought it was true.\u201d\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Fazio, the psychology professor at Vanderbilt not involved in the policy brief, said the urge to cling to a culprit may even go deeper: people often seek out simple answers in moments of crisis.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cYou could think of all of this as being a part of a causal story \u2014 like, ‘What caused my house to burn down? Why was it not safe?\u2019\u201d Fazio said. \u201cThe really simple model is, \u2018The firefighters and the hydrants are supposed to prevent it, and they didn’t, therefore they’re at fault.\u2019 Whereas I’m sure the actual causal story is much more complicated.\u201d<\/p>\n

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