{"id":460957,"date":"2025-12-20T22:49:51","date_gmt":"2025-12-20T22:49:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/460957\/"},"modified":"2025-12-20T22:49:51","modified_gmt":"2025-12-20T22:49:51","slug":"carmu-founder-leaned-into-startup-after-getting-laid-off-three-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/460957\/","title":{"rendered":"Carmu Founder Leaned Into Startup After Getting Laid Off Three Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This as-told-to essay is based on a conversation with Kelly Withers, 36, who lives outside Detroit and is the founder of Carmu, a yoga mat startup. The following has been edited for brevity and clarity.<\/p>\n<p>About seven years ago, I was in my 20s and getting divorced. I was a single mom to a 2-year-old and a 3-year-old, with no outside help. I had no place to live and no full-time job. So I started coming up with ideas as fast as I could. How am I going to take care of these two kids? I felt alone.<\/p>\n<p>At that time, I was doing photography to help restaurants build their brands. Then I went to a yoga class. When I walked in, every person had the same mat and the same outfit. I started thinking about my mom and how she raised us to be individuals and stand out. I had this idea that since I was designing so many things already, I would go home and try to design a mat so I could feel more like myself when I went to class.<\/p>\n<p>About a week before I went to place my order for all the mat designs, the pandemic hit, and I was back to square one. I also lost my photography clients, because restaurants were shuttered. I panicked because I had two tiny humans relying on me.<\/p>\n<p>So, I started teaching myself design for tech, because it seemed much more lucrative. From everything I&#8217;ve ever heard, you go into the corporate world \u2014 that&#8217;s how you have a comfortable life.<\/p>\n<p>I got a syllabus from an online boot camp, but I couldn&#8217;t afford it. So, I bought a book on every topic. Then I hired a tutor for 30 minutes at a time to go over my work and my portfolio, to make sure I was doing it right. He worked at Microsoft. He told me how much money I would potentially make as a junior designer. I remember thinking, &#8220;Well, I&#8217;m going to have to pretend I&#8217;m a senior designer.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Pretty much on my first interview, I got a corporate job doing UX design as a lead designer. I was bullshitting, so it was a little nerve-racking. Whenever I had a project, I&#8217;d run it by the tutor, just praying that I didn&#8217;t get busted. I caught on quickly, and it was fine. I did that for a couple of years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The layoffs<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Eventually, there was a lot less work. So, I started panicking.<\/p>\n<p>I found another job, so then I had two. Sure enough, about a month later, layoffs hit, and our whole team from the first job got wiped out.<\/p>\n<p>People talk about corporate life and how that gives you security. In my experience, you&#8217;re handing over your control, your finances, your future \u2014 and it&#8217;s still a gamble. I can&#8217;t live my life constantly betting on somebody else and somebody else&#8217;s company.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve always been into design. I want to build something tangible. I ordered about 250 mats to start. The idea was that I would continue working in tech, and then I would soft-launch these as my side hustle. That way, if I ever got laid off again, I&#8217;d have some security.<\/p>\n<p>The day my yoga mats got delivered to my house, I got laid off. I looked at it as a sign: Go all in. You have some savings. See what you can do. Within about a month, I sold out.<\/p>\n<p>I was like, &#8220;Now what am I going to do?&#8221; They&#8217;re made outside the US, so it takes a while for them to get here. I took the few mats that I had left and reached out to style editors.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Doubling down<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I took the rest of my savings, and I bought 1,000 mats. It was a scary moment because I was living off those savings, too.<\/p>\n<p>People talk about entrepreneurship and say, &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s so risky.&#8221; Well, it isn&#8217;t. If you have the product, I like to think of it as a calculated risk. At this point, if I&#8217;m being honest, it was the only way I could think of making money, as I could not get a job interview.<\/p>\n<p>The company is named after my mom, Carolyn Mulligan, who passed away 10 years ago after she was hit by a car on her bicycle. She had just been on my mind, and I&#8217;m convinced that because she was so strong, she has something to do with how this is working out.<\/p>\n<p>The day I launched, in May, I sent out this post on Instagram to announce it. My friend called me and said to open up Vogue. Hailey Bieber was on the yoga mat in the magazine. About a week later, GQ wrote about Carmu. From there, it was just enough leverage where I could take it all over the place. We got into Goop, and we got into Anthropology in Europe. It&#8217;s just crazy because it&#8217;s been such a little amount of time.<\/p>\n<p>When I got the next shipment of mats, I hadn&#8217;t had an interview in tech for a year. With my business, I was profitable from day one.<\/p>\n<p>The big question now is whether I want to have outside investment or do it myself. I believe I could find outside investment. Have I been traumatized in handing over control of my life to other people? Yeah. I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m ready to give up control of anything right now, just because of how everything has gone.<\/p>\n<p>Do you have a story to share about your career? Contact this reporter at <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/mailto:tparadis@businessinsider.com\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;click_type&quot;:&quot;other&quot;,&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;outbound_click&quot;}\" rel=\" nofollow noopener\">tparadis@businessinsider.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"This as-told-to essay is based on a conversation with Kelly Withers, 36, who lives outside Detroit and is&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":460958,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[64,210406,210408,1805,2385,607,19918,21915,210409,3546,3092,14339,210407,242,6620,67,132,68,1628,210405],"class_list":{"0":"post-460957","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-entrepreneurship","8":"tag-business","9":"tag-carmu-founder","10":"tag-comfortable-life","11":"tag-control","12":"tag-day","13":"tag-entrepreneurship","14":"tag-idea","15":"tag-mat","16":"tag-mat-design","17":"tag-people","18":"tag-photography","19":"tag-saving","20":"tag-single-mom","21":"tag-tech","22":"tag-time","23":"tag-united-states","24":"tag-unitedstates","25":"tag-us","26":"tag-year","27":"tag-yoga-mat-startup"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@us\/115754344349981517","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/460957","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=460957"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/460957\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/460958"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=460957"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=460957"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=460957"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}