{"id":536324,"date":"2026-01-23T05:37:11","date_gmt":"2026-01-23T05:37:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/536324\/"},"modified":"2026-01-23T05:37:11","modified_gmt":"2026-01-23T05:37:11","slug":"vic-michaelis-on-fanoli-cher-ponies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/536324\/","title":{"rendered":"Vic Michaelis on Fanoli-Cher, Ponies"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\t\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/t\/very-important-people\/\" id=\"auto-tag_very-important-people\" data-tag=\"very-important-people\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Very Important People<\/a>\u201d has returned for its third season on <a href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/t\/dropout\/\" id=\"auto-tag_dropout\" data-tag=\"dropout\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dropout<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/t\/vic-michaelis\/\" id=\"auto-tag_vic-michaelis\" data-tag=\"vic-michaelis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Vic Michaelis<\/a>\u2018 alter ego Host Vic is working overtime to make sure their interview subjects are as interesting as possible. But in typical Vic fashion, the host has zero control over the situation in Season 3, and that has never been truer than in last week\u2019s episode, \u201cFanoli.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tFeaturing comedian Angela Giarratana in the role of the fictionarl iconic-but-now-washed-up singer, the Season 3 episode sees Vic struggle through an interview they hoped would be all about speaking with Fanoli, one of their favorite singers, about Cher, another one of their favorite singers. Unfortunately, the feud between Fanoli and Cher immediately shuts that down.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tAccording to Michaelis, it\u2019s really just a happy coincidence this episode, which was taped months prior, aired during 2026\u2019s Cheraissance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\t\u201cLittle could we have known how topically relevant this would be with Cher, obviously, being in Bowen Yang\u2019s last episode of \u2018SNL,\u2019 being very in the cultural zeitgeist with the Dax Shepard interview,\u201d Michaelis told Variety. \u201cSo it\u2019s kind of a perfect time for a new Cher feud to come about.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tSee below for more from Variety\u2018s interview with Michaelis about Dropout\u2019s \u201cVery Important People\u201d Season 3 and their role on Peacock\u2019s Emilia Clarke and Haley Lu Richardson-led spy series \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/t\/ponies\/\" id=\"auto-tag_ponies\" data-tag=\"ponies\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ponies<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\t\tFirst, how is your tenure as honorary president of Dropout going?\t<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tI feel like I\u2019m making a lot of really important structural changes. There\u2019s been a lot of pushback within the organization, and I\u2019m not letting that stop me from fulfilling my agenda. And I think that\u2019s really important. I\u2019m making sure that we have TV screens in all of the bathrooms, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DNlNvDYtr2l\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DNlNvDYtr2l\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">so that way people can watch \u201cAvengers: Endgame,\u201d<\/a> really know what we\u2019re playing for. Henry the Pig has a really important position in the cabinet. There\u2019s lots of big changes here. We\u2019re spending money left, right and center, but I think it\u2019s going to come back to us tenfold.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tWith the upcoming release of \u201cAvengers: Doomsday,\u201d do you want to campaign to get that on Dropout as well?\t<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tI don\u2019t, because, if anything, I think that that\u2019s going to help our goal of getting \u201cEndgame\u201d on the platform. We\u2019ve got a new \u201cAvengers\u201d coming out. Disney, don\u2019t be greedy. There\u2019s too many \u201cAvengers\u201d on Disney+, let\u2019s unload one for you<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/wp-content\/themes\/pmc-variety-2020\/assets\/public\/lazyload-fallback.gif\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/Very-Important-People.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-lazy- data-lazy- height=\"683\" width=\"1024\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\tKate Elliott\/Dropout<\/p>\n<p>\t\tI know Host Vic turned it down in the episodes \u2014 but will you reconsider making Fanoli\u2019s \u201cI Don\u2019t Want Money, I Don\u2019t Even Like It, I Just Want to Throw It Away\u201d the official \u201cVIP\u201d theme song?\t<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tListen, it\u2019s catchy. And here\u2019s the thing about Host Vic \u2014 I want to say a firm no, but if people seem to really like it, then I\u2019m willing to throw away any and every moral high ground I have in order to make people happy. So probably not, but also a definite possibility.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tAs we now know, Fanoli has a giant feud with Cher and this becomes a major part of his \u201cVIP\u201d interview. Did that start with you? At what point in the improv process was the Cher feud introduced to be such a heavy plot point for Fanoli?\t<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tHonestly, I think when it comes to improving stuff like that, I like including things that I know a lot about and so can easily reference. And I was like, Cher it\u2019s one of my favorite people on the planet. That\u2019s somebody that I know. I can pull out any of her discography. I can talk about her life. I\u2019ve read her autobiography twice \u2014 the audiobook is her and Stephanie J. Block that switch back and forth as the narrator because she didn\u2019t want to read the whole thing; it\u2019s iconic. I felt like that was something that I could reference a lot, and I did not realize that Angela knew, I think, nothing about Cher, other than maybe her name.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tIt elicited a pretty emotional reaction in me immediately, because I was so prepped to get into it and talk about it, and Angela immediately going, \u201cNo, pass,\u201d I think it broke something in Vic the performer a little bit.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/wp-content\/themes\/pmc-variety-2020\/assets\/public\/lazyload-fallback.gif\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/Ponies-Vic-Michaelis.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-lazy- data-lazy- height=\"683\" width=\"1024\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tKatalin Vermes\/PEACOCK<\/p>\n<p>\t\tHow did you approach your \u201cPonies\u201d character, Cheryl, and did you see similarities between her and Host Vic?\t<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tWhen you really get to live in a different character in a different time, I just am drawn to characters like this. I think that Cheryl is so reliant on specifically, a lot of the men around her, and her tactics to get what she wants is similar to host Vic, but a little bit different. It\u2019s also just a different audience. So I wasn\u2019t feeling too fearful of people being like, That\u2019s Host Vic! <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tI am very excited for people to get to see Cheryl. I think Cheryl also skews \u2014 I\u2019m saying this because I\u2019ve lived with Host Vic for so long, I have a lot of empathy for them as a character \u2014 a little bit meaner towards the people around her. I do think that Cheryl is unbelievably capable and has so much to give. And I think in another time would have been rising the ranks as the CEO of something, or been the head of something, and has all of that power; whereas I don\u2019t think Host Vic has that ability. I think Cheryl is hyper competent, but just because of the time and the world that she\u2019s living in, has an inability to rise above her station and is so reliant on the people around her. That\u2019s such a hard position to be in. And I really feel for that situation.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tWhat can you tease about where Cheryl ends the season vs. where she starts it?\t<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tThis show is so funny because the way in which it was shot, I know it is a spy thriller, but for me, it was just kind of an intimate family drama. You sometimes have to slowly fall apart to rebuild, that\u2019s my thoughts on Cheryl. Sometimes everything has to unravel in order to start making some yarn for a sweater, and sometimes the sweater is better next time. Sometimes the sweater is a more fun, nice, red sweater. That\u2019s what I want to say.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tThis interview has been edited and condensed.<\/p>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u201cVery Important People\u201d has returned for its third season on Dropout and Vic Michaelis\u2018 alter ego Host Vic&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":536325,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[33],"tags":[185,71932,171,231608,67,132,68,237187,237188],"class_list":{"0":"post-536324","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-celebrities","8":"tag-celebrities","9":"tag-dropout","10":"tag-entertainment","11":"tag-ponies","12":"tag-united-states","13":"tag-unitedstates","14":"tag-us","15":"tag-very-important-people","16":"tag-vic-michaelis"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@us\/115942801886294722","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/536324","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=536324"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/536324\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/536325"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=536324"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=536324"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=536324"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}