{"id":774930,"date":"2026-05-05T13:05:26","date_gmt":"2026-05-05T13:05:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/774930\/"},"modified":"2026-05-05T13:05:26","modified_gmt":"2026-05-05T13:05:26","slug":"our-daughter-overheard-something-upsetting-at-our-friends-house-she-doesnt-want-to-be-around-them-anymore","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/774930\/","title":{"rendered":"Our daughter overheard something upsetting at our friends’ house. She doesn’t want to be around them anymore."},"content":{"rendered":"

Our advice columnists have heard it all over the years\u2014so today we\u2019re diving into the archives of Care and Feeding to share classic parenting letters with our readers. Have a question for Care and Feeding? <\/strong>Submit it here<\/strong><\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dear Care and Feeding,<\/strong><\/p>\n

My husband\u2019s best friend and his wife divorced 10 months ago. We have been friends with him, his ex-wife, and their 17-year-old daughter for 21 years\u2014we even bought a summer house in their town last year, before the surprise divorce proceedings began. Recently, we spent the night at this friend\u2019s summer house, as did his ex-wife and daughter, to celebrate the daughter\u2019s high school graduation.<\/p>\n

Everyone went to bed around 1 a.m. The problem occurred at 6 a.m. when I woke up and was surprised to see my 15-year-old daughter also awake. She had a look of terror on her face. She shared that she woke up at 3 a.m. because she had to go to the bathroom but was unable to leave her room because our host and his ex-wife were having bombastic sex in the room next door. She was terrified, listening to a very loud female performance. After they finished, my husband\u2019s friend came out of the bedroom visibly tired and in his underwear, which my daughter saw from her room.<\/p>\n

In her words, she is traumatized from this incident and does not want to see the ex-wife for sure, and maybe not my husband\u2019s best friend either. Her descriptions of what she witnessed were very detailed and upsetting. She is not into romance yet and can\u2019t even watch movies involving adults kissing. This experience has turned into one she cannot forget. We are being supportive of our daughter and limiting our contact with the friend and his ex-wife for now. My question is, should one of us tell them why we are keeping our distance? Or should we just stay away for now and hope next summer will be better? We are afraid of losing their friendship over this if we say something to either of them. But we are also afraid of losing our daughter\u2019s trust by not sticking up for her and respecting her boundaries. This has also opened up issues for us as parents about how we feel about exposing our kids to a couple who are divorced and surprisingly not living life as divorced people should when children are around.<\/p>\n

\u2014What to Do with Divorced Friends Behaving Badly<\/p>\n

Dear What to Do,<\/strong><\/p>\n

First off, you need to check your disapproval at the door. There are no absolute rules for how divorced couples \u201cshould\u201d behave. Your friends are allowed to have all the sex they want, divorced or not. So long as the arrangement works for them, it\u2019s none of your business. It\u2019s upsetting that you would let their decisions as consenting adults impugn your opinion of their characters. Your friends had a lapse in judgment regarding volume; nothing more.<\/p>\n

If you truly are such good friends, it should be no big deal to drop them a line. \u201cHey, sorry we\u2019ve been AWOL, but there\u2019s an awkward situation. [Daughter] heard you guys having sex and is freaked out by it, so we\u2019re just trying to give her some space to process. Sorry if that\u2019s embarrassing, but we figured it was better than ghosting you.\u201d Because honesty among good friends\u00a0is\u00a0much better than pulling a disappearing act. Plus, delivering this kind of message can pretty much guarantee that the incident won\u2019t repeat in the future, if you ever share a house again.<\/p>\n

As for your daughter, I don\u2019t know what kind of vocabulary or behaviors she heard, so it\u2019s hard for me to understand this incident as terrifying\/traumatizing. Still, that\u2019s not for me to decide; she\u2019s clearly upset and needs help processing. If that\u2019s not something she can do on her own or by talking it out with you, there\u2019s nothing wrong with finding her a counselor or therapist to help her talk through this one-off incident.<\/p>\n

\u2014Allison Price<\/p>\n

From: My Mother-In-Law Can\u2019t Help but Keep Accidentally Poisoning My Son<\/a>. (Aug. 7th, 2023).<\/p>\n

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Dear Care and Feeding,<\/strong><\/p>\n

My 16-year-old daughter has started going to Quaker meetings. We\u2019re atheists and have raised our kids to be atheists, and I feel (I know this is unfair) personally rejected by this. Obviously I can\u2019t stop her from going, but can I express my disappointment in a way that owns that I know this is probably an overreaction?<\/p>\n

\u2014I Guess They All Need to Rebel Somehow<\/p>\n

Dear IGTANtRS,<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hahahahahahahahaha. QUAKER MEETING: THE REBELLION.<\/p>\n

Seriously though, you\u2019re partway to where you need to get already. You\u2019ve raised a kid who wants to explore something new about the world, and it happens to be \u201csitting in silence in a roomful of other people who may or may not stand up and say something that\u2019s on their minds.\u201d You also know you\u2019re overreacting.<\/p>\n

Go to a meeting with her. I don\u2019t know what you think they\u2019re doing in there, but it will likely put your mind at ease. Also,\u00a0before\u00a0you attempt to have a weird and embarrassing conversation with her about how this is disappointing to you as a parent, definitely talk to your partner and ideally a therapist. This is advice I would give to a religious parent freaking out that her 16-year-old doesn\u2019t want to go to church anymore, and it\u2019s advice I\u2019ll give to you: Let it go. She\u2019s trying to make sense of the world, and she\u2019s old enough to do it. Don\u2019t push her away; pull yourself in. Ask her about what she gets from going to Quaker meetings. (She may be drawn to pacifism, to community, to any number of things that aren\u2019t\u00a0this will really piss off my parents.)<\/p>\n

This is an opportunity to get closer to your daughter in the final few years she will be living at home. Don\u2019t mess it up because you had plans to raise a cradle-to-grave atheist that may not shake out. She\u2019s trying something out; give her that space.<\/p>\n

\u2014Nicole Cliffe<\/p>\n

From: We\u2019re Atheists, but Our Teen Started Going to Quaker Meetings<\/a>. Can I Tell Her I\u2019m Hurt?. (Sept. 6th, 2019).<\/p>\n

Dear Care and Feeding,<\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve read a number of advice columns on school birthday celebrations that recommend bringing, say, cupcakes for the whole class. However, I feel that we as a culture are now more aware of the significant number of kids living with celiac disease (a serious autoimmune disorder in which consuming gluten may cause illness and damage to the small intestine) as well as those with life-threatening food allergies, and that the time for shared food is past. Even if the shopper in question takes the time to find a treat that is \u201cfree\u201d of the major allergens, there may be a child excluded for other dietary reasons.<\/p>\n

Can you help me help all of us into rethinking celebratory events so that they aren\u2019t solely about foods? For example, how about allowing the kids to watch a funny YouTube video as a special treat as opposed to simply serving something \u201cyummy\u201d that may not work for everyone? What else?<\/p>\n

\u2014Thinking Outside the (Snack) Box<\/p>\n

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\n A.J. Daulerio
\n My Kid Is Now Banned From All Family Functions Until Further Notice. He Doesn\u2019t Deserve This!
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Dear TOSB,<\/strong><\/p>\n

While I do expect that some of our commenters will take issue with the premise that edible treats should be eliminated from school birthdays and other kiddie celebrations, I think you are onto something that we should consider for a number of reasons.<\/p>\n

Not only do the class cupcakes pose a danger to\u00a0the 1 in 100 children said to be living with celiac disease<\/a>, they could also upset kids who are suffering from eating disorders and\/or may be experiencing harassment from peers regarding their size (i.e., \u201cI know\u00a0you\u2019re\u00a0happy to get some chocolate, not that you need it,\u201d \u201cHey Tia, maybe you should eat two since you\u2019re so skinny.\u201d). Anxiety around food is a fucked up, deeply personal experience that many children are silently suffering from, and it\u2019s not something we take into consideration often enough.<\/p>\n

One may consider working with their child\u2019s teacher to establish just how long is typically allocated for birthday celebrations and if there is a non-edible \u201ctreat\u201d that can be shared with the class. For smaller kids, this could be a round of sing-along songs, reading a special book aloud, or playing a fun game like Seven Up. Older children may be more keen on the YouTube idea. There are also small, inexpensive items that you can purchase and distribute in lieu of cupcakes or other foods\u2014think the pencils and knickknacks that are often put in the goody bags that kids get at the close of a birthday party.<\/p>\n

Parents who do choose to bring in food should plan on something that works for everyone, whether that means opting for a fruit tray over cupcakes or bringing a gluten-free cupcake for the one child who requires one.<\/p>\n

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    Unfortunately, not every parent has the time, money, or capacity to think about all that when their kid\u2019s birthday comes up, and even those who\u00a0do\u00a0are quite capable of presenting a gluten-free, nut-free, vegan chocolate cupcake to a gluten-free, nut-free, vegan kid who simply hates chocolate. The world is wildly unfair and school celebrations are just but one of the occasions in which our children will come to experience that unfairness. Perhaps you\u2019ve sparked the possibility of real change by asking this question out loud\u2014I hope that you have! In the meantime, continue to educate parents and teachers around you about the difficulties and dangers associated with celiac disease and other conditions that make food dangerous for kids, and columnists like myself will (hopefully) do our best to be supportive.<\/p>\n

    \u2014Jamilah Lemieux<\/p>\n

    From: Can\u2019t We Stop Making Kids\u2019 Birthday Parties About Treats and Snacks?<\/a> (Jan. 15th, 2020).<\/p>\n

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