{"id":818734,"date":"2026-05-24T09:48:18","date_gmt":"2026-05-24T09:48:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/818734\/"},"modified":"2026-05-24T09:48:18","modified_gmt":"2026-05-24T09:48:18","slug":"new-yorks-rape-laws-leave-out-many-victims-who-drank-willingly","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/818734\/","title":{"rendered":"New York\u2019s Rape Laws Leave Out Many Victims Who Drank Willingly"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">A young woman testified that she was out with two male friends when they decided to drink at the home of one of the men.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">She became ill and one of the men helped carry her to a bed. As she drifted in and out of consciousness, she testified that both men and a third man who came into the room took turns having sex with her as she murmured, \u201cI just want to go home.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Prosecutors in Westchester County argued it was clear that the woman had not consented and that she had been raped. Richard Ferrante, a lawyer for one of the men, said his client believed \u201cthere was nothing done without consent.\u201d But jurors could not agree on a verdict, resulting in a mistrial. The men pleaded guilty to lesser charges that helped them avoid prison.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Prosecutors say cases like this might have turned out differently under a bill pending in the New York Legislature that would change the <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nysenate.gov\/legislation\/laws\/PEN\/130.00\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">state\u2019s rape law<\/a>, which has made it difficult to charge people with rape if the accuser chose to become intoxicated.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">The current law excludes people who were voluntary intoxicated from claiming they were \u201cmentally incapacitated\u201d during an assault and therefore unable to consent, according to prosecutors. Defense attorneys argue someone could still say they were \u201cphysically helpless,\u201d meaning they were either unconscious or physically unable to communicate consent at the time of the act. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">But that definition leaves out people who were semiconscious, slurring their words, or unable to stand or walk steadily before they were assaulted, according to those that back the new bill.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">A significant number of victims who were clearly intoxicated cannot meet the \u201cvery high burden\u201d of proving physical helplessness, said Joe Muroff, chief of the Special Victims Unit at the Bronx district attorney\u2019s office.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">If the bill passed, those victims \u201cwould be able to seek their day in court,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">With at least 90 sponsors, the bill has bipartisan support from more than half of the State Assembly. But with less than two weeks before the session ends on June 4, the bill appears doomed to die without even a vote.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">The first version of the bill was introduced in 2019 by Assemblyman Jeffrey Dinowitz, a Democrat representing the Bronx, but it has never been brought to the floor for a vote.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Some supporters have blamed the Assembly speaker, Carl E. Heastie, a Democrat representing the Bronx whose role is to bring bills for a vote. Last month, a dozen people, including sexual assault survivors and their advocates, protested outside Mr. Heastie\u2019s office in the Bronx, calling on him to support the bill.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Kerri Bich\u00e9, a spokeswoman for Mr. Heastie, declined to state his position on the bill. But she said that generally the speaker wants to have the support of 76 Democrats before bringing a bill to the floor. There are 103 Democrats and 47 Republicans in the Assembly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">\u201cThere\u2019s not yet sufficient support to bring the measure to the floor,\u201d Ms. Bich\u00e9 said. \u201cWe are continuing to discuss the bill with our majority members.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/assembly.state.ny.us\/leg\/?default_fld=&amp;leg_video=&amp;bn=A00101&amp;term=&amp;Summary=Y&amp;Text=Y\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Under the proposed legislation<\/a>, third-degree rape could be charged in cases where a person who was under the influence of drugs or alcohol and was unable to control or understand their behavior was assaulted by someone who should have \u201creasonably\u201d understood the condition of the victim.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/jaapl.org\/content\/early\/2022\/12\/02\/JAAPL.220032-21\/tab-figures-data\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Other states<\/a> like California and Virginia already have similar laws.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Defense lawyers have pushed back hard on the legislation, saying it would make it easier for prosecutors to charge people who had sex with someone they believed had given consent and later claimed they were too intoxicated to know what they were doing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Yung-Mi Lee, a public defender and past president of the New York State Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, described the legislation as \u201cvery paternalistic.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">\u201cTo just say anyone who is that drunk is incapable of saying \u2018no\u2019 takes away ownership and a woman\u2019s ability to say, \u2018Well, I wanted to have sex with that person even though I wasn\u2019t able to stand steadily,\u2019\u201d Ms. Lee said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">If the bill were passed into law, she said, it could capture \u201ca lot of innocent conduct\u201d and \u201cbe weaponized against a lot of innocent people when the so-called victim regrets having sex with the other person.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">The judge in the Westchester County case, Susan Cacace, is now the county\u2019s district attorney.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">\u201cWhen you\u2019re intoxicated, it\u2019s difficult to formulate the words to express anything,\u201d she said. \u201cVictims should be protected even if they\u2019re out for a good night and want to drink. It doesn\u2019t make it right for them to be victimized.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Mr. Dinowitz said it\u2019s a \u201cbinary issue.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">\u201cEither you\u2019re on the side of the survivors or you\u2019re on the side of the rapists,\u201d he said. \u201cFor once, we should be able to put ourselves in the shoes of people who have endured untold horror and be on their side.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Darcel Clark, the Bronx district attorney, said the proposed law would not be used to prosecute drunken consensual sex.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">The burden of proof will remain high, and prosecutors will need to call witnesses or pull video surveillance to prove that a person was incapacitated, she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Jane Manning, a former prosecutor and advocate for rape survivors, said the legislation targets cases \u201cwhere a person is visibly, severely incapacitated, and a predator takes advantage of that incapacitation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Opponents still have concerns.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">\u201cI, of course, want survivors to get justice,\u201d said Assemblywoman Latrice M. Walker, a Democrat whose district includes the Brownsville neighborhood of Brooklyn. \u201cI am also cautious about the creation of new laws and our duty to preserve due process protections.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Mark Bederow, a lawyer who has represented defendants accused of sexual assault, said the current law is \u201cnot a license to say that somebody is not mentally incapacitated under the law, therefore they can\u2019t be raped.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">But advocates say the current need to show physical helplessness is insufficient.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">They point to the case of Leslie Hunt, who in October 2015 went out with a co-worker for drinks and woke up in a Brooklyn hospital. There, she said, a nurse told her that she had been found inside a hotel, climbing on furniture. When emergency workers came to help her, she fought with them, kicking and screaming.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">A rape kit found semen on her body and she had bruises on her arms. But, in part because of <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2022\/06\/30\/nyregion\/nypd-sex-crimes-justice-department.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">errors the detectives made<\/a> in the investigation, she was unable to prove she had been drugged.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">And because of her conduct inside the hotel, Ms. Hunt said she did not appear \u201cphysically helpless.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">\u201cIt\u2019s incredibly unjust,\u201d said Ms. Hunt, now 42 and living in California. \u201cLike I did something wrong because I chose to drink.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"A young woman testified that she was out with two male friends when they decided to drink at&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":818735,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_share_on_mastodon":"0"},"categories":[5122],"tags":[4462,5229,336859,336863,2866,336861,336862,297113,273586,336864,16855,336860,405,403,17050,5226,5225,5228,5227,5598,55750,67,586,132,5230,68,2969,8414],"class_list":["post-818734","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-new-york","tag-alcohol-abuse","tag-america","tag-bederow","tag-carl-e","tag-clark","tag-darcel-d","tag-dinowitz","tag-heastie","tag-jeffrey","tag-latrice","tag-law-and-legislation","tag-mark-a","tag-new-york","tag-new-york-city","tag-new-york-state","tag-newyork","tag-newyorkcity","tag-ny","tag-nyc","tag-sex","tag-state-legislatures","tag-united-states","tag-united-states-of-america","tag-unitedstates","tag-unitedstatesofamerica","tag-us","tag-usa","tag-walker"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@us\/116628927832097849","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/818734","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=818734"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/818734\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/818735"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=818734"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=818734"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=818734"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}