{"id":837777,"date":"2026-06-01T23:02:13","date_gmt":"2026-06-01T23:02:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/837777\/"},"modified":"2026-06-01T23:02:13","modified_gmt":"2026-06-01T23:02:13","slug":"demonstrators-cannot-be-forced-to-take-down-86-47-flag-judge-rules","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/837777\/","title":{"rendered":"Demonstrators Cannot Be Forced to Take Down \u201886-47\u2019 Flag, Judge Rules"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">A federal judge in Washington ruled on Monday that protesters criticizing President Trump near the Capitol could not be forced to take down a flag reading \u201c8647,\u201d finding no indication that the message could be taken as a true threat against the president\u2019s life.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Judge Randolph D. Moss <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/storage.courtlistener.com\/recap\/gov.uscourts.dcd.291681\/gov.uscourts.dcd.291681.20.0.pdf\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">wrote<\/a> that despite efforts by police to compel the group, an advocacy organization called Accountability Now USA, to remove the flag and other signage over the course of several months, he concluded it was clear that the flag and its message were protected speech. The dispute in some ways mirrored the criminal case against James Comey, the former F.B.I. director, who was <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/04\/28\/us\/politics\/james-comey-indictment.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">indicted<\/a> on a charge of making a threat against the president over a photograph posted to Instagram that depicted seashells on a beach arranged into the same numbers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Beginning with Mr. Comey\u2019s indictment in April, the Trump administration has claimed that <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/05\/16\/us\/politics\/james-comey-trump-86-meaning.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the phrase \u201c86\u201d<\/a> \u2014 common in restaurant parlance \u2014 could be interpreted as a death threat. The other number, \u201c47,\u201d is a reference to Mr. Trump, the nation\u2019s 47th president.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Todd Blanche, the acting attorney general, <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/05\/03\/us\/politics\/blanche-comey-indictment-seashells.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">said in May<\/a> that others without Mr. Comey\u2019s reach and profile would not be similarly investigated for posting or displaying the phrase.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Turning to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, Judge Moss wrote the phrase \u201c86\u201d originated in \u201c1930s soda-counter slang,\u201d meaning to \u201cthrow out,\u201d and had evolved through the twentieth century to mean \u201cto refuse to serve a customer\u201d or \u201cto get rid of.\u201d He noted that the dictionary included language that it did not endorse any definition with violent connotations \u201cdue to its relative recency and sparseness of use.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">The activist group received a permit from the Park Service in April to set up near the George Meade Statue outside the Federal District Court in Washington, within walking distance of the Capitol and the National Mall. According to court filings, the group has maintained a 24-hour demonstration in the spot, calling for Mr. Trump\u2019s impeachment, and it intends to renew the permit when it expires in August.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">But after it set up the encampment, the group reported several contentious encounters with law enforcement, including officials with the Secret Service and National Park Service, who insisted they take down signs, hinting they might face arrest if they did not.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">A National Park Service official contacted the group in April, writing that signs alluding to president\u2019s ties with Jeffrey Epstein were \u201cdeemed unprotected obscenity\u201d by the agency, and needed to be removed. In particular, the National Park Service sought the removal of a sign that said Mr. Trump\u2019s supporters \u201clove child rapists,\u201d an apparent allusion to criticism over the Justice Department for <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/03\/11\/us\/politics\/trump-epstein-files-fbi-doj.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">missing files<\/a> in its release of documents related to Mr. Epstein\u2019s sex trafficking investigation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Mr. Trump has maintained he severed ties years before Mr. Epstein\u2019s involvement in federal crimes, and has denied any wrongdoing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">The group temporarily took the sign down before filing their lawsuit. But once it put up the \u201c8647\u201d flag, in court filings members said they faced further scrutiny, including a visit by Secret Service agents asking if the flag was meant as a threat. According to filings, a volunteer with the group told the agents \u201cI want Trump to live forever and rot in jail where he belongs,\u201d after which the agents left.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">But in May, a group of National Park Police officers arrived and demanded the flag be taken down, informing the group that flying it again would violate their permit to protest on federal land.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">The Trump administration had <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/storage.courtlistener.com\/recap\/gov.uscourts.dcd.291681\/gov.uscourts.dcd.291681.16.0.pdf\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">argued<\/a> to Judge Moss that there was a \u201cstrong governmental and public interest\u201d in investigating any possible threat against the president, even ones that turn out to be frivolous. It said the Secret Service had investigated more than 1,300 instances of individuals using \u201c86-47,\u201d though predominantly in posts online.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">Judge Moss wrote that within the context of the demonstration, which focused on impeachment and \u201cremoval\u201d of Mr. Trump from office, outside a courthouse, the message could not be seen as a credible threat. He barred the Interior Department and Kevin Greiss, the superintendent of the National Mall, from interfering with the group\u2019s demonstration for two weeks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-ac37hb evys1bk0\">\u201cUnder these circumstances, it is difficult to fathom how the N.P.S. (or the Secret Service) could have concluded that a reasonable observer would view the flag as a true threat,\u201d Judge Moss wrote. \u201cThe term \u201886\u2019 is used far more often to mean \u2018throw out\u2019 than \u2018kill,\u2019 and it appeared at a demonstration that was focused, of all things, on the constitutional impeachment and \u2018removal\u2019 of the president.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"A federal judge in Washington ruled on Monday that protesters criticizing President Trump near the Capitol could not&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":837778,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_share_on_mastodon":"0"},"categories":[2],"tags":[134499,81213,343302,134501,95812,51,134500,343304,62839,11686,50,343305,343303,297239,52,16852],"class_list":["post-837777","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-news","tag-comey","tag-decisions-and-verdicts","tag-emblems-and-insignia","tag-federal-courts-us","tag-flags","tag-headlines","tag-james-b","tag-merriam-webster-inc","tag-moss","tag-national-park-service","tag-news","tag-randolph-d-1961","tag-signs-and-signage","tag-threats-and-threatening-messages","tag-top-stories","tag-united-states-politics-and-government"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@us\/116677348392755932","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/837777","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=837777"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/837777\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/837778"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=837777"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=837777"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=837777"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}