{"id":853177,"date":"2026-06-08T16:50:13","date_gmt":"2026-06-08T16:50:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/853177\/"},"modified":"2026-06-08T16:50:13","modified_gmt":"2026-06-08T16:50:13","slug":"rfk-jr-appears-disengaged-on-many-health-department-matters-beyond-vaccines","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/853177\/","title":{"rendered":"RFK Jr. Appears Disengaged on Many Health Department Matters Beyond Vaccines"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Shortly after the World Health Organization <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/05\/17\/world\/africa\/ebola-congo-uganda-who-public-health-emergency.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">declared<\/a> the Ebola outbreak in Africa a public health emergency, a reporter asked Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. if he was worried about the virus. Six Americans had already been exposed. His response was brief: \u201cYeah, we\u2019re working on it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">In the nearly three weeks since, as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention imposed <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/port-health\/legal-authorities\/evdorder.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">travel restrictions<\/a> to keep the virus from coming to the United States, Mr. Kennedy has made no public comments about the spreading outbreak. He has received very few briefings about the virus from C.D.C. scientists, although he speaks daily to the acting director, according to people familiar with his response.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Mr. Kennedy\u2019s approach to the crisis reflects his broader management of the Department of Health and Human Services, which affects the health of 340 million Americans and provides health care to 40 percent of the population through Medicare and Medicaid.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Mr. Kennedy has shown little interest in managing the details of work in his department, according to multiple colleagues. Instead, they say, he is single-mindedly focused on his top priorities, including food recommendations and pesticide exposures, and hunting for evidence to support his long-held beliefs that vaccines are harmful.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Deeply mistrustful of career civil officials, the secretary has surrounded himself with a close circle of handpicked advisers and stacked agencies with political appointees aligned with his views. While major posts have sat vacant and a wave of veteran health experts and scientists have departed, Mr. Kennedy has remained isolated from much of the department\u2019s top staff.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">He rarely engages with members of Congress, colleagues said, unless he is asked to testify. He has made just one known <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/abcnews.com\/US\/1-week-after-deadly-shooting-cdc-employees-feel\/story?id=124611063\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">visit to the C.D.C.<\/a>, after a gunman opened fire on its headquarters and killed a police officer last August.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">This examination of Mr. Kennedy\u2019s leadership style is based on the accounts of a dozen people who have had direct contact with him as secretary, as well as other health department employees, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid retribution.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Mr. Kennedy and the department did not directly address questions about his leadership style.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">The secretary\u2019s detachment from much of the work of the agency, along with the administration\u2019s deep staff cuts and his attacks on career staff, have driven down morale, they say. It\u2019s a dynamic that could threaten the department\u2019s ability to protect Americans in a crisis, according to public health experts and former secretaries.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Critics say one of the most urgent problems is Mr. Kennedy\u2019s failure to act more swiftly to address a leadership vacuum. There is no surgeon general. Around half of the 27 institutes and centers at N.I.H. are run by acting directors. The acting chief of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases was recently fired, as was the nation\u2019s top drug regulator.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">The leader of the Food and Drug Administration <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/05\/12\/us\/politics\/trump-fires-fda-commissioner-makary.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">quit last month under pressure over tobacco policy<\/a>. Mr. Kennedy fired the C.D.C. director last August; it is now run on an acting basis by Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who already has another huge job as director of the National Institutes of Health.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">\u201cYou would never accept a major corporation operating this way,\u201d said Michael T. Osterholm, the director of the University of Minnesota Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, who has advised health secretaries of both parties.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">\u201cIf the C.E.O. lacked deep expertise in the company\u2019s business and the leaders of its most important divisions were missing, investors would revolt,\u201d Dr. Osterholm said. \u201cHere, the stakes are much higher. The mission is protecting the health and safety of the American people, and we\u2019re confronting serious disease threats without permanent leadership in some of our most important public health agencies.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">To address the management gaps, the White House and Mr. Kennedy initiated a shake-up in February, elevating Christopher Klomp, a department official and former health care executive, to serve as the secretary\u2019s chief counselor and smooth out operations. In a statement, Courtney Spencer, who left the Labor Department two weeks ago to become Mr. Kennedy\u2019s top spokeswoman, said the health department was \u201caggressively recruiting top talent to fill every remaining vacancy,\u201d adding, \u201cNothing has slowed our ability to execute.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Mr. Kennedy\u2019s allies say that while his management style may be different from that of his predecessors, he is leading in other ways by taking stands on matters of importance to Americans, including healthy eating and tackling chronic disease.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">\u201cYou do not come to Washington to challenge powerful interests, disrupt decades of business as usual, and demand accountability to make friends,\u201d Dr. Mehmet Oz, the director of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services and a close ally of Mr. Kennedy\u2019s, said in a statement provided by the health department. \u201cYou do it to deliver results.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Other advisers say Mr. Kennedy is also running into the realities of Washington, including a Congress that has refused to confirm some of President Trump\u2019s nominees.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">\u201cVery predictably, you get into governing, you get into a toxic political environment, and a situation where there\u2019s trillions of dollars of interest and you have the burden of having to do policy,\u201d Calley Means, a close adviser to Mr. Kennedy, said at a recent forum hosted by Harvard University. \u201cNobody executes perfectly.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A Remote Presence<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Mr. Kennedy keeps a low profile at the health department\u2019s headquarters, a hulking building that faces the National Mall near the U.S. Capitol.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">When he is in town, he exercises at his gym before work, then usually arrives at about 10 a.m. and leaves by 4 p.m., his colleagues say. He spends much of his day in closed-door meetings, according to those who work with him, and has little direct engagement with his staff.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Every Tuesday at 10:30 a.m., the chiefs of the department\u2019s 13 operating divisions gather in the secretary\u2019s suite to update leadership on their activities. At the outset of his tenure, Mr. Kennedy was rarely there, either virtually or in person, according to three people familiar with his schedule. Since Mr. Klomp\u2019s elevation, he now shows up once a month. But when he does attend, he often appears disengaged and spends the time scrolling on his phone, according to people in attendance. Several described him as \u201cchecked out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Once, when he arrived to the meeting 15 minutes late, Mr. Kennedy offered a self-deprecating apology, according to one person in the room: \u201cThank you for putting up with my dysfunctional self.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Health department officials did not respond to a request for comment about the meeting or Mr. Kennedy\u2019s remark.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">His lack of interest in matters that are not high on his priority list has meant that he has not engaged at critical moments, colleagues said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">When measles killed two children in Texas early last year, Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, who led the response but has since left the agency, asked repeatedly to brief Mr. Kennedy but was rebuffed, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Susan Monarez, who briefly served as Mr. Kennedy\u2019s C.D.C. director before she was fired, had little direct interaction with the health secretary until she ran afoul of him on vaccine policy. She later told senators that during a series of tense meetings with the secretary, she was \u201cdirected to only work with the political appointees that he had put in place at C.D.C., and not to speak or work with the career scientists.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">In the current Ebola crisis, Mr. Kennedy has left the department\u2019s response to Dr. Bhattacharya, a health economist with no prior experience in public health even though he is leading the C.D.C. Dr. Bhattacharya, who also <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/05\/21\/us\/hantavirus-ebola-quarantine-trump.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">led the response<\/a> to a recent outbreak of hantavirus, wrote an opinion essay published in <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/opinion\/the-cdc-is-protecting-americans-from-ebola-27188a5e\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">The Wall Street Journal<\/a> on Wednesday saying that while the \u201crisk to the American public remains low, Ebola is dangerous.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">A White House spokesman, Kush Desai, said the agency\u2019s \u201crapid and comprehensive response\u201d to the Ebola outbreak proved that \u201cunder Secretary Kennedy\u2019s leadership, H.H.S. continues to safeguard the health and wellness of the American people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Ms. Spencer, the H.H.S. spokeswoman, said the health department had \u201cexecuted an immediate and coordinated response\u201d under Mr. Kennedy\u2019s leadership.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">But key vacancies inside the health department have made the response more challenging, people familiar with situation said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">The Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response, responsible for pandemic preparedness and for standing up field hospitals and quarantine facilities in Kenya, is currently run on an acting basis by <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/aspr.hhs.gov\/AboutASPR\/LeadershipBiographies\/Pages\/knox.aspx\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">John Knox,<\/a> a former Los Angeles firefighter who founded the group Firefighters4Freedom during the pandemic to fight vaccine mandates.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">As the outbreak has spread, Secretary of State Marco Rubio offered a tacit rebuke of Mr. Kennedy\u2019s move last year to withhold funding from an international vaccine alliance, suggesting the State Department was <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/06\/02\/us\/politics\/rubio-kennedy-vaccines-gavi.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">taking back management of the U.S. relationship with the alliance<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">\u201cWe are going to re-engage,\u201d Mr. Rubio told lawmakers last week. \u201cWe need to drive this to an outcome.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A Daunting Portfolio<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Under any circumstances, the Department of Health and Human Services is difficult to run. It has 13 operating divisions covering a vast array of issues, such as child welfare and pandemic preparedness. Past secretaries from both political parties say there are three main ingredients for success: understanding the work of the divisions, strong crisis communication and muscular coordination with state, local and international health leaders.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Tommy G. Thompson, who as health secretary to President George W. Bush <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2001\/10\/25\/us\/nation-challenged-cabinet-secretary-anthrax-crisis-health-secretary-finds.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">faced complaints<\/a> about his management of the 2001 anthrax crisis, spent a week at each one of the operating divisions at the outset of his tenure, and made frequent trips to Capitol Hill to advocate for the department. In an interview last year, he said he \u201cwould strongly suggest\u201d Mr. Kennedy do the same.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">\u201cThe department is so vast and so complex,\u201d Mr. Thompson said, \u201cand you have to be prepared.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Kathleen Sebelius, a former Kansas governor who <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/04\/11\/us\/politics\/sebelius-resigning-as-health-secretary.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">resigned as President Barack Obama\u2019s health secretary after the flawed rollout<\/a> of the healthcare.gov website, said she met with the division chiefs regularly, likening them to her cabinet.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">\u201cMy goal was to really be informed by the scientists, to make sure that N.I.H. was at the table, that F.D.A. was at the table, that our global health people were at the table,\u201d Ms. Sebelius said in an interview, adding, \u201cI was really schooled by the people who had been there before and who knew what the hell they were doing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Mr. Kennedy, by contrast, has delegated broad authority to Stefanie Spear, a longtime adviser who has been with him since his days as an environmental lawyer and functions as his protector and defender, according to people who know them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Ms. Spear runs meetings for the secretary, accompanies him on official trips and keeps a list of the secretary\u2019s policy projects on a private spreadsheet to which his policy team has no access; there are more than 50 items on the list, one person who has seen it said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">All of the requests for the secretary\u2019s decisions and meetings go through Ms. Spear. When Mr. Kennedy is asked a question, his frequent response is \u201cjust run that by Stefanie.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Colleagues say that her tight control has slowed down department operations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">After Mr. Kennedy promised Congress that the F.D.A. would investigate the safety of the abortion pill mifepristone, the agency proposed updating a set of sophisticated databases of electronic records it needed for the research. But the project was delayed for months by Mr. Kennedy\u2019s office, according to two people with detailed knowledge.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">When a gunman opened fire on the C.D.C. last August, Mr. Kennedy was fishing with Native American leaders in Alaska. Health department officials wanted to get a statement out to the news media. But it was held up for hours, several said, while Ms. Spear sought approval from the White House.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Frustration with Ms. Spear, who served as Mr. Kennedy\u2019s communications director during his campaign and oversees his public comments, has fueled some key departures.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Mr. Kennedy is on his third top spokesman; the first two quit in frustration, according to people familiar with their decisions. The secretary has also run through two chiefs of staff; he fired the first one, and the second was pushed aside in favor of Mr. Klomp.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">In a statement, Mr. Kennedy praised Mr. Klomp and Ms. Spear as \u201ctwo of the most effective leaders in government.\u201d He said Mr. Klomp had \u201dbeen instrumental in driving operational excellence, strengthening accountability, and ensuring H.H.S. delivers results for the American people,\u201d and that Ms. Spear \u201ckeeps our team focused on results and ensures the president\u2019s and my priorities get across the finish line.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Mr. Klomp has moved quickly in the search for a <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/04\/16\/health\/erica-schwartz-cdc-director-trump.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">new C.D.C. director<\/a>, with a nominee now awaiting Senate confirmation, as well as for other top leaders for the agency. He also brought in a new team of policy advisers to the secretary and instituted daily meetings between Mr. Kennedy and the leaders of the \u201cBig Four\u201d agencies: F.D.A., C.D.C., N.I.H. and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, according to three people familiar with the department\u2019s operations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">He has also sought to address low morale by starting a regular newsletter in which Mr. Kennedy addresses employees as \u201cthe dedicated professionals of H.H.S.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">The secretary, however, has been out of the loop on some key decisions. When Dr. Tracy Beth Hoeg, the F.D.A.\u2019s top drug regulator, was <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/05\/15\/us\/politics\/fda-drug-regulator-fired.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">fired<\/a> by F.D.A. leaders in May, the secretary did not learn of it until after it happened, according to three people familiar with the events.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">There is no question that Mr. Kennedy is changing the national conversation around health in America, especially healthy eating. While his vaccine agenda has so far been stymied by court decisions, he has scored \u201cwins,\u201d as he likes to call them, notably by <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/01\/07\/well\/rfk-jr-food-pyramid-nutrition-guidelines-protein.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">flipping the food pyramid<\/a>, persuading medical schools to <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/03\/05\/us\/rfk-medical-schools-nutrition-curriculum.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">revamp nutrition education<\/a> and convincing <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/07\/07\/us\/politics\/rfk-food-dyes-candy.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">some food makers<\/a> to abandon artificial dyes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">He travels often and makes aggressive use of his platform to promote his priorities, including on social media and <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-secretary-kennedy-podcast\/id1890798827\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cThe Secretary Kennedy Podcast,\u201d<\/a> which began in April. Last week, he made stops in <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hhs.gov\/press-room\/secretary-kennedy-wisconsin-tour-dairy-formula-addiction-recovery.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Wisconsin<\/a> to spotlight the work of dairy farmers and faith-based groups working in addiction recovery, and <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hhs.gov\/press-room\/wtas-hhs-unveils-plan-to-combat-lyme-disease.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">New Hampshire<\/a> to announce an effort to combat Lyme disease.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Colleagues say he also makes visits to Scottsdale, Ariz., where his son and daughter-in-law live, and Florida, where he stays at the Palm Beach mansion owned by Dr. Oz.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">After Memorial Day, the public got a glimpse of him there. Mr. <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/05\/26\/us\/rfk-jr-snakes-video-safety.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Kennedy posted video<\/a> of himself, in a suit and tie, capturing two black racer snakes on Dr. Oz\u2019s patio. One of them bit him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-f3337s erlrjdy0\">Apoorva Mandavilli contributed reporting.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Shortly after the World Health Organization declared the Ebola outbreak in Africa a public health emergency, a reporter&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":853178,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_share_on_mastodon":"0"},"categories":[5122],"tags":[5229,311673,341144,17993,2509,5959,149859,23342,11243,6752,11229,405,403,5226,5225,5228,5227,16857,23344,156236,348419,277,67,586,16852,132,5230,68,2969,162489],"class_list":["post-853177","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-new-york","tag-america","tag-appointments-and-executive-changes","tag-bhattacharya","tag-centers-for-disease-control-and-prevention","tag-diet-and-nutrition","tag-donald-j","tag-government-employees","tag-health-and-human-services-department","tag-jay","tag-kennedy","tag-medicine-and-health","tag-new-york","tag-new-york-city","tag-newyork","tag-newyorkcity","tag-ny","tag-nyc","tag-regulation-and-deregulation-of-industry","tag-robert-f-jr","tag-spear","tag-stefanie","tag-trump","tag-united-states","tag-united-states-of-america","tag-united-states-politics-and-government","tag-unitedstates","tag-unitedstatesofamerica","tag-us","tag-usa","tag-vaccination-and-immunization"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/853177","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=853177"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/853177\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/853178"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=853177"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=853177"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=853177"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}