{"id":86104,"date":"2025-07-23T14:15:10","date_gmt":"2025-07-23T14:15:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/86104\/"},"modified":"2025-07-23T14:15:10","modified_gmt":"2025-07-23T14:15:10","slug":"jenna-ortega-tim-burton-give-first-wednesday-season-2-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/86104\/","title":{"rendered":"Jenna Ortega, Tim Burton Give First \u2018Wednesday\u2019 Season 2 Interview"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/t\/jenna-ortega\/\" id=\"auto-tag_jenna-ortega\" data-tag=\"jenna-ortega\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jenna Ortega<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/t\/tim-burton\/\" id=\"auto-tag_tim-burton\" data-tag=\"tim-burton\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tim Burton<\/a> sit down across from you, and there\u2019s a lot to take in.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tThe red-hot star and the black-heart director are a study in surface-level contrasts and soon-to-be-revealed similarities. This is their first major sit-down interview together, and both are a bit anxious. Ortega is sometimes fidgety and other times gives you that frozen <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/t\/wednesday\/\" id=\"auto-tag_wednesday\" data-tag=\"wednesday\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wednesday<\/a> Addams \u201cI can see your soul\u201d stare. The more freewheeling Burton \u2014 with his signature dark carnival-spun cotton candy hair \u2014 routinely tries out several sentences before deciding which is best.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tThey are, Burton warns, \u201ctwo people who speak in \u2018erms\u2019 and \u2018ums,\u2019 that\u2019s our language\u201d \u2014 sharing a joint discomfort with the obligatory \u201cLet\u2019s sell the show!\u201d interview process as they have battle scars from past press encounters (with Ortega sporting a particularly fresh wound). Not helping matters is that our chat is being conducted in a drab New York high-rise conference room, where Ortega and Burton look like exotic fish out of water, plucked from the more colorful lagoons they typically inhabit.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/wp-content\/themes\/vip\/pmc-hollywoodreporter-2021\/assets\/public\/lazyload-fallback.gif\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/19Cover_hi_res-2025.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-lazy- data-lazy- height=\"435\" width=\"336\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tPhotographed by Erik Madigan Heck<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tSome background: Ortega is the 22-year-old sensation who went from head-turning roles in ensemble horror franchise films X and Scream VI to starring in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/t\/netflix\/\" id=\"auto-tag_netflix\" data-tag=\"netflix\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Netflix<\/a>\u2018s smash hit Wednesday, which follows the droll Addams Family teen as she attends the Nevermore Academy school for \u201coutsiders.\u201d Ortega also co-starred in fall\u2019s Warner Bros. box office hit Beetlejuice Beetlejuice.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tBoth Wednesday and the Beetlejuice franchise are directed by the 66-year-old Burton, who\u2019s enjoying a late-career revival thanks to these back-to-back hits with his Gen Z star. With a list of credits ranging from Batman to Ed Wood to Sweeney Todd, Burton has long been a singularly unique goth artist type who has somehow managed to survive, and often thrive, within the studio system. (Burton doesn\u2019t use the word \u201cgoth,\u201d by the way. \u201cIt\u2019s lost meaning,\u201d he says. But it\u2019s tough to detach his brand from that word \u2014 and it\u2019s safe to assume he doesn\u2019t like the word \u201cbrand,\u201d either.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tThe duo come bearing some news: Wednesday has scored a renewal for season three, and a spinoff series is in early discussions. Below, they\u2019re interrogated about Wednesday season two (which returns Aug. 6; trailer below), the perils of fame (such as \u2014 pardon us, we\u2019re just quoting \u2014 being called a \u201ccunt whore\u201d in front of one\u2019s mother) and a potential Beetlejuice 3 (Warner Bros. film boss Mike De Luca will want to pay close attention to this part). We tried to make this painless, but it wasn\u2019t entirely possible. These two feel deep.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Let\u2019s go back to the start: What initially excited you both about <\/strong><strong>Wednesday<\/strong><strong>? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>TIM BURTON<\/strong> I\u2019ve never done television, so it was the idea of exploring something on a longer time frame, and she\u2019s an interesting character. As much as a middle-aged man could feel like a teenage Wednesday Addams, I feel those things. And she\u2019s a character that\u2019s all about being subtle because she doesn\u2019t really have a huge range of emotions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>JENNA ORTEGA<\/strong> She\u2019s also one of the few protagonists who is able to get away with that, aside from villains \u2014 who tend not to have emotional growth or depth. \u2026 I actually did an audition for [a Wednesday animated movie] when I was 14, and I didn\u2019t get it. I remember telling my mom, \u201cThat would be cool to be her, though.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Tim, you once said, \u201cYou have to kind of be Wednesday, and that\u2019s what Jenna is \u2014 whether she likes it or not.\u201d Jenna, how do you feel about that? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> I think I am? I don\u2019t know. I don\u2019t know why I got this job. I will say maybe I feel even more attached to her now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON <\/strong>You can become a lot of different things as an actor. But for Wednesday, you have to have it. I don\u2019t mean that she\u2019s dark. You need this weird internal strength and clarity because you can\u2019t manufacture it. Jenna\u2019s like a silent movie actor, and what I enjoy about her character is not so much the [dialogue] but the way she presents herself.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tBefore Ortega was cast, Burton had warned Wednesday showrunners Alfred Gough and Miles Millar, \u201cIf we don\u2019t find Wednesday, there is no show.\u201d But there was almost no show to begin with. \u201cWe thought the idea for Wednesday was such a no-brainer, but when we went out to pitch it, we only had one bidder,\u201d reveals Millar. After Netflix bit, Ortega auditioned by Zoom while filming X. The showrunners say she brought a sharpness and otherworldliness to her reading that other candidates lacked. \u201cThe easy take on the character is that she\u2019s a bitch, that she\u2019s cold,\u201d Millar says. \u201cBut Wednesday\u2019s not trying to be that way, and you never feel that way with Jenna.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>What worked well \u2014 and what didn\u2019t work so well \u2014 that first season? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> Netflix has a lot more trust this time around. So we were able to do things on a grander scale and were able to spend more time on sequences. There are also a lot of new castmembers like Steve Buscemi and Billie Piper, and doing a scene with them pushes you further because they\u2019re so gifted. We also play on the excitement that Wednesday got from having saved the school in the first season. So it\u2019s nice to see her shut down again out of pure agony [from the attention].<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON <\/strong>The key element always is \u2014 and this is where Jenna is crucial \u2014 that the show could so easily veer away from what that character is. They could try to give her a bigger arc, make her more emotional. Jenna knows how far you can go. There\u2019s a creative freedom when you are clear about that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> Sometimes I\u2019ll catch a glance of a shot and realize part of why a scene isn\u2019t working is because my posture\u2019s off, or my chin isn\u2019t tilted down enough or that I\u2019m not still enough.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Yes, the character is so specific, right down to not blinking. Surely your eyes get tired. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA <\/strong>You [blink] on everybody else\u2019s line. Your eye does start twitching. There were a couple setups in season one that looked like I was crying because I was trying to keep my eyes open.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Was there anything about the performance that you look back on that you wished you had done differently? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> All the time. I don\u2019t think I\u2019ve ever shot a scene in my life that has not kept me up at night and given me nightmares. I can\u2019t watch the stuff that I do because I don\u2019t think I would ever show my face again. I was 17 or 18 when we started this, and I was so nervous and so scared. The first two weeks of production were some of the most chaotic, stressful moments in my career. When I see some of the old footage, I can see the confusion or the stress.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Do you ever wonder if you\u2019re being too hard on yourself? Isn\u2019t there a point in which trying to be that perfect becomes less useful? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> I get told that all the time, and I can totally acknowledge that. But I\u2019ve also got this weird thing where every day I change who I am to a certain degree. I will be having a full-blown panic attack about something and then I will end it with, \u201cI actually don\u2019t care.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> She hides it well. All the things she\u2019s talking about, I never sensed that. Those feelings never came out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA <\/strong>I think it\u2019s from starting my career so young and being accustomed to being on a set. I have a lot of respect for people who carry themselves with professionalism. I want to make sure everybody else is comfortable, and it\u2019s stressful when you can sense somebody else\u2019s stress. Like with Tim, some directors freak out when they\u2019re in tense situations, but if anything, he almost gets calmer. That\u2019s such a gift because you feel like you have the space to do what you need to do and nothing else matters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON <\/strong>The first time on set, the first day of shooting, I knew from the beginning that Jenna knows everything about what\u2019s going on in front of and behind the camera. I could see her watching everybody.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> I\u2019m a creep. You\u2019re never not being watched by me.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/wp-content\/themes\/vip\/pmc-hollywoodreporter-2021\/assets\/public\/lazyload-fallback.gif\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/WEDNESDAY_203_Unit_01229RC-EMBED-2025.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-lazy- data-lazy- height=\"667\" width=\"1000\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\tOrtega keeping an eye out as Wednesday Addams in season 2. <\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tJonathan Hession\/Netflix<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>This seems to be a point of difference between you. Tim, in your early interviews, you talked about how you embrace the flaws in your work. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> Have you seen [Beetlejuice Beetlejuice]? Everything is still flawed! That\u2019s just part of who I am. I\u2019m a flawed individual.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>How has your relationship evolved along the way? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> For me, it hasn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> Maybe we have a touch more shorthand? Both of us want to do things as quickly and efficiently as possible. So if he has a note, we just kind of look at each other.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON <\/strong>My favorite form of communication \u2014 not speaking. That\u2019s also one of the things that we came up with for the show: If Wednesday doesn\u2019t want to be somewhere, she just [abruptly walks away, often in the middle of a conversation]. That\u2019s something I always feel. If you go to a party and don\u2019t want to be there, you walk out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>That reminds me of a line from the new season I liked \u2014 \u201cI don\u2019t have FOMO. I have a fear of being included.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA <\/strong>That line was hard for me because I didn\u2019t know if I wanted to use acronyms.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON <\/strong>That\u2019s what she questions all the time: \u201cWould she say that?\u201d and \u201cWould she do that?\u201d are questions on a daily basis.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tOrtega taking ownership of her character led to a controversy after the first season aired. The show generated 252 million views globally, becoming Netflix\u2019s biggest English-language series of all time. Netflix chief content officer Bela Bajaria says its success \u201cwent beyond analytics: People watched it again and again and brought their parents into it, and it became a multigenerational show. There were soldiers in Ukraine doing the Wednesday dance.\u201d Gough, meanwhile, notes its popularity proved their instincts about it were correct, and that \u201ceverybody identifies as an outcast, no matter who you are.\u201d But during a podcast interview, Ortega accidentally caused an uproar after she said that she spent her time on set \u201cchanging lines\u201d and \u201chad to put my foot down\u201d because \u201ceverything I had to play did not make sense for the character.\u201d Asked about this, Gough responds: \u201cJenna gave notes on the scripts. She\u2019s now a producer. She\u2019s very involved, and she has a 360-degree view of things that, frankly, you don\u2019t find with most actors. I think she\u2019ll have a long career.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>What was that like for you, personally, to have your first experience of being in a controversy and getting backlash? Every star goes through this at some point. But it doesn\u2019t mean it isn\u2019t hard while you\u2019re in it. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> I mean, I felt terrible. In no way did I mean to come across that way. I spend a lot of time in my head and I have all these different trains of thought, and all I needed to say was, \u201cI improvise.\u201d Also, nobody, before, ever cared what I said. It was a good lesson.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>I was thinking that, too. If you said that two years earlier about another project, nobody would have noticed. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON <\/strong>In this new media world, people will find one thing you say and that\u2019s it. You can\u2019t stop it. It\u2019s like a virus.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>What was that like for you, Tim, as somebody who is protective of your star? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> I just felt bad for her because I know her, and I know the media, and I know what happened. I\u2019ve had certain things happen to me where somebody tried to concoct some kind of story about me. This is why I don\u2019t hardly talk to anybody.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA <\/strong>The amount of times I have seen headlines with quotes that I\u2019ve never actually said is bizarre.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> Then it becomes like the villagers in Frankenstein. Mass hysteria. People with torches.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Fear of public persecution is also a theme in your work \u2014 like in <\/strong><strong>Edward Scissorhands<\/strong><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> And it\u2019s upsetting because you can\u2019t really do anything. It doesn\u2019t matter if you retract it, or say, \u201cI didn\u2019t mean to say that.\u201d Nobody gives a shit.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> And I pride myself on my professionalism, so that was a weak moment for me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>There\u2019s a scene in the new season where Wednesday gets a letter from her editor on a book she wrote, and the editor says she\u2019s difficult to work with and won\u2019t take notes. Was that deliberately poking fun of this? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON <\/strong>It\u2019s always fun to have life and art intermingling.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Jenna, you\u2019re furrowing your brow like, \u201cWait a second \u2026\u201d <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> No, I\u2019m just trying to remember it. I don\u2019t know how meta it was for me. But I do think the great thing about the Wednesday character is she\u2019s constantly making societal remarks and just kind of degrading the public. So I think that that was a funny bit to touch upon and acknowledge it.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/20250514_EMH_THR_BurtonOrtega-0641_Final2-EMBED-2025.jpg?w=1000\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1236325852\"\/>Burton in Yohji Yamamoto jacket, shirt; Magliano pants. Ortega in Amiri suit, lace trim camisole; Nicole Rose ring, Type ring, McAdam earrings; Jimmy Choo shoes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Jenna, you once asked a great question of Natalie Portman that I wanted to ask you back: As far as the public persona of you goes, do you think it\u2019s accurate? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA <\/strong>Not at all. I think that\u2019s part of my struggle with that side of this job, because you feel incredibly misunderstood. It\u2019s almost to a point where it feels like your name doesn\u2019t belong to you. I almost don\u2019t even resonate with it anymore. I hate assumptions, and a big part of this job is that people are going to make assumptions about you.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>What do people assume that\u2019s not right? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA <\/strong>I don\u2019t know. Yes, I have qualities similar to Wednesday, but I\u2019m not \u2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON <\/strong>You know what I miss? I miss the days of mystery. I miss when you didn\u2019t know how much a movie cost and when you didn\u2019t know everything about actors. So when people have a misunderstanding, it\u2019s like, why is it their business?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA <\/strong>That\u2019s the discussion on \u201cthe death of the movie star,\u201d and that\u2019s exactly it. We know too much. And the people feel entitled to those bits and pieces of your life where if they were put under the same microscope, they wouldn\u2019t feel nearly as comfortable. But there\u2019s an expectation on creative people, who half the time should not be speaking publicly. They\u2019re supposed to become salesmen for their brand. But they should just lock them in a room and let them create their art.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> I go further. I still love people. But I work with people I like working with, and I don\u2019t want to go out to dinner with them. The more I know about them, the less it\u2019s helpful for me as a director.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Jenna, are you still able to go out and about at this point? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> Sometimes you go out, and it\u2019s a mess. And other times, I could be walking for hours and no one gives a shit. If you really want to go unseen, you can do it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>I\u2019m sure 99 percent of fan encounters are positive, but have you had any that are scary?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA <\/strong>I\u2019m always scared. Somebody shouting your name in public is insane. Sometimes I feel uncomfortable when it\u2019s grown men approaching me. Also, sometimes people shout vile things. Like, you don\u2019t stop for somebody because you\u2019re going to be late for something and they\u2019re calling you a \u201ccunt whore\u201d in front of your mother. It\u2019s horrific.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Then I\u2019m sure you\u2019re like, \u201cOh, I wish I would have stopped for you.\u201d <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> Yeah! Let me go back \u2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>The dancing scene in season one was a huge breakout viral moment. Was there any sort of pressure going into season two of, \u201cWell, we probably can\u2019t top that, but can we find something that will stand out?\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> This sums up what I like about working with Jenna. We didn\u2019t do a big Broadway rehearsal. We didn\u2019t hire a choreographer. I picked the song and said, \u201cYou just go do it.\u201d She showed up on the day \u2014 I think she even had COVID \u2014 and we just did it. It was the most fun I had on the show because we just let it go. But to your question: No, we didn\u2019t think about it this time because we didn\u2019t think [about the dance number being a big deal] to begin with. It gets dangerous to say, \u201cWe have to do something like this again.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>How many seasons is this show, ideally?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> I don\u2019t think that way. You\u2019re talking to two of the worst people to ask that question.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/wp-content\/themes\/vip\/pmc-hollywoodreporter-2021\/assets\/public\/lazyload-fallback.gif\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/MCDBEBE_WB049-EMBED-2025.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-lazy- data-lazy- height=\"733\" width=\"1000\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\tOrtega and Burton on the set of Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Warner Bros. \/Courtesy Everett Collection<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tParisa Taghizadeh\/Warner Bros.\/Courtesy Everett Collection<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tIt might seem odd to ask how long a show will continue when its second season hasn\u2019t aired, but Ortega has hinted she\u2019s eager to explore other projects as well as make her own. Gough and Millar hope to keep Wednesday enrolled through the character\u2019s Nevermore tenure, which lasts seven years (or seasons). Yet ditching school early \u2014 like abruptly walking out of a conversation \u2014 would be such a Wednesday thing to do (Ortega stepped out of the Scream franchise after two films, but that was a unique situation; the actress has pointed to the project\u2019s collapse after her onscreen sister, Melissa Barrera, was ousted for social media posts and director Christopher Landon quit). The Wednesday team is exploring a spinoff, the details of which remain top secret for now. \u201cIt\u2019s something we\u2019re definitely noodling; there are other characters we can look at,\u201d says Gough, while Bajaria says \u2014 and one might consider this a hint \u2014 \u201cThere\u2019s a lot to explore in the Addams Family.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Jenna, you\u2019ve said that part of the reason studios are freaking out about Gen Z is because nobody knows why things hit the way they do. So not to put you on the spot with \u201chow to save Hollywood,\u201d but what do you think it would take to get Gen Z into theaters? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> The emphasis on integrating Gen Z slang and behavior in films is so forced that it turns people off. I think studios are trying way too hard. Just give the new guy a chance, give the original script a chance, allow people to be creative and maybe step back a little bit. With Gen Z, it\u2019s hard to grab their attention. You can\u2019t show them stuff that they\u2019ve already seen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>I see Tim nodding along \u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON <\/strong>Strongly agree. I\u2019m a perfect example of that. I always worked with studios, but everything I did was kind of a surprise. I did movies that were on 10 Worst Movies of the Year lists \u2014 like [the original] Beetlejuice was. It surprises, it confuses people and then it clicks. And if you want somebody to do something, then let them do it. Otherwise it\u2019s like you\u2019re a star athlete and they break your legs and say, \u201cGo win the race.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Another thing you guys have in common is you both have criticized AI. James Cameron recently said that AI could make blockbusters financially viable. Could you ever see using it as a tool? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON <\/strong>I don\u2019t know that much about it. All I\u2019ve seen is when people have done AI versions of my characters, and that I didn\u2019t like. I felt like something had been taken away from me. I\u2019m sure there are a lot of great uses for it. Every new technology has the potential to be good or bad.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> I just see what\u2019s happening to young people and the kind of content AI is creating. It\u2019s taking out the humanity and we\u2019re getting further from the truth. You wonder why people are anxious and depressed, and it\u2019s because not everything that they\u2019re seeing is meant to be digested. It\u2019s junk food for the brain. It\u2019s not real. It\u2019s not attainable. It creates a great sense of isolation. And the beauty about film is that it comes from people with stories and personal experiences \u2014 and a computer can never replicate that. We\u2019ve never not taken something too far. I feel like people never know when to draw the line.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>In April, Mike De Luca <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/2025\/04\/warner-bros-mike-de-luca-pam-abdy-courage-in-face-of-brutal-press-coverage-1236366618\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">said<\/a> development on Beetlejuice 3 is starting \u201cimminently.\u201d <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> Really? Nobody told me. Maybe I\u2019ve been replaced.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA <\/strong>Maybe I\u2019ve been, too. Maybe [her character] Astrid dies and goes to heaven instead [of the films\u2019 Netherworld]. They should just take Baby Beetlejuice on tour and send him to Hawaii.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> It took 35 years to make the second one, so by that time I\u2019ll be 105. I know those odds are not good. I really, really enjoyed making this one, and [Warner Bros.] didn\u2019t even really want to do it. We did it the same way I did the first one, with the actors doing improv. It was beautiful to see some of the old cast and have Jenna. But it\u2019s like trying to re-create the Wednesday dance scene. I love the characters, but I don\u2019t necessarily see it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>But it\u2019s tough for me to imagine you being like, \u201cLet somebody else do it.\u201d <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON <\/strong>No. I feel very proprietary about everything I do, even if I don\u2019t own the characters. When they did the [Beetlejuice Broadway musical], I got pissed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>And Jenna, if they said, \u201cWe want Beetlejuice 3, but Tim is not directing it \u2026<\/strong>\u201c<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> Oh, I would never. I also think anybody would be really wrong to get behind that project. Without him involved, what is it? It is what it is because of Tim. There\u2019s no other film you can compare Beetlejuice to. So why would you do that? That would be a tad disrespectful.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Tim, we heard you might be doing a Medusa movie for Sony?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> I don\u2019t talk about anything until I\u2019m doing it. I\u2019ve had projects that I thought I was doing [like his scrapped Superman Lives movie starring Nicolas Cage], and it got canceled. When that happens, it\u2019s a soul destroying moment in life. I\u2019ll let you know when I\u2019m on the set making a movie. Even then, you never quite know.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> I would love for you do to something based on the Japanese monster, though\u2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> Oh, don\u2019t worry, that could be happening.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Jenna, as somebody with ambitions to direct yourself, is there anything about the way Tim directs that has inspired you?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA<\/strong> The way Tim carries himself on set. He\u2019s so polite. He knows everybody\u2019s names. He trusts the team. When I initially started working with him, I would ask him for notes and critiques. He wouldn\u2019t give any. It\u2019s not because he wasn\u2019t trying to be helpful, but he was allowing me the space to find what was going to work for me. It created a greater confidence in myself. I think he really brings out the best in people and allows them to think out of the box, so you want to get weirder and weirder with it. It\u2019s such a joy when someone brings that out of you.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>So what do you both hope to do over the next few years?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>ORTEGA <\/strong>I don\u2019t even have plans for tomorrow. It\u2019s a waste of time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>BURTON<\/strong> Me either.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tThis story appeared in the July 23 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine. <a href=\"https:\/\/subscriptions.hollywoodreporter.com\/site\/thr-subscribe\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Click here to subscribe<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Jenna Ortega and Tim Burton sit down across from you, and there\u2019s a lot to take in. 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