{"id":981718,"date":"2026-08-05T06:14:36","date_gmt":"2026-08-05T06:14:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/981718\/"},"modified":"2026-08-05T06:14:36","modified_gmt":"2026-08-05T06:14:36","slug":"its-really-not-for-the-faint-of-heart-this-29-year-old-ceo-became-a-business-owner-doubled-revenue-in-3-years-and-learned-what-car-not-to-drive-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/us\/981718\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018It\u2019s really not for the faint of heart\u2019: This 29-year-old CEO became a business owner, doubled revenue in 3 years, and learned what car not to drive"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Not all of the lessons in the Walker Deibel playbook fit between its covers. One of the first bolt-on acquisitions Lucas Philips tried to close was a tiny shop in rural Oregon \u2014 a guy who had spent decades fabricating custom interiors for Porsches. Philips flew to Portland, grabbed a brand-new convertible Mustang on a free upgrade from his shiny new Hertz President&#8217;s Circle card, and spent three-and-a-half hours driving south through &#8220;the most beautiful&#8221; Oregon landscape toward the seller&#8217;s property. The owner had originally quoted $40,000 for the operation. Two days later, after watching Philips pull up in a gleaming convertible and spend time on site, he decided the price should be more like $320,000.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">&#8220;I regret that so much to this day,&#8221; Philips said. &#8220;I should have just taken the Camry.&#8221;  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Lucas Philips grew up watching his father do something increasingly rare among his generation: own a small business outright and still make it home in time for school drop-offs and hockey practice. At 26, he decided to do the same \u2014 acquiring a niche manufacturer of custom automotive interiors in Newark, N.J. Now 29, Philips told Fortune that he&#8217;s glad he did it, but &#8220;it&#8217;s really not for the faint of heart.&#8221;  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Since acquiring Newark Auto, Philips has pushed annual revenue from &#8220;a little over a million&#8221; at purchase to more than $3 million this year, in roughly five years of operating time. He&#8217;s done it with bolt-on acquisitions, long commutes, and a roster of hourly workers who have never seen the perks of startup life \u2014 Philips jokes about the proverbial ping-pong table in the office \u2014 but he&#8217;s also learned that in the world of small business, the smallest details can derail a deal.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Like: don&#8217;t rent a convertible when you&#8217;re making a business trip to try to acquire a new subsidiary.  <\/p>\n<p>        From dorm-room startup to &#8220;buy then build&#8221;          <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Philips traces his entrepreneurial drive to something older than Northwestern. His family immigrated to New York in the Ellis Island era a little over 100 years ago and, frankly, nobody wanted to hire them. He&#8217;s from several generations of Jewish small business owners, so it was only natural for him to think this way, he said.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">The list of businesses is somewhat endless. One grandfather sold paper goods \u2014 boxes, plastic wrap \u2014 to the Jewish bakeries of New York. His father sold sunglasses imported from China before anyone was importing anything from China, then hair accessories, then bought a high-end custom furniture business that now has a showroom in the B&amp;B building on Madison Avenue and a factory in Christiansburg, Virginia.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">As an undergraduate at Northwestern, Philips launched a coffee concept and raised &#8220;millions of dollars in outside capital&#8221; before graduating, only to find that the reality of reporting to investors and fighting with an MBA cofounder was not the life he wanted. He described leaving that venture disillusioned with the equity-funded startup model and looking for a path that would give him more control, even if it meant more personal risk.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">A friend from Kellogg introduced him to the idea of entrepreneurship through acquisition (ETA) and pointed him toward Walker Deibel&#8217;s book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/1544501137?lv=shuf&amp;channelId=500&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback\" data-ylk=\"slk:Buy%20Then%20Build;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas;source:content-canvas%20default\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;Buy Then Build&quot;,&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yTrafficOrigin&quot;:&quot;content-canvas default&quot;}\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Buy Then Build<\/a>. Philips said reading it &#8220;clicked&#8221; in a way that academic guides failed to, making clear that he could &#8220;buy a business with debt&#8221; instead of raising another equity round or bootstrapping from zero.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">At age 23 in 2021, he joined the <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/preview\/2026\/08\/02\/its-really-not-for-the-faint-of-heart-this-29-year-old-ceo-became-a-business-owner-doubled-revenue-in-3-years-and-learned-what-car-not-to-drive\/\" data-ylk=\"slk:Acquisition%20Lab;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas;source:content-canvas%20default\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;Acquisition Lab&quot;,&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yTrafficOrigin&quot;:&quot;content-canvas default&quot;}\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Acquisition Lab<\/a>, which works to help acquisition entrepreneurs like Philips source, diligence, fund and operate their new business. This includes community and events, access to a dedicated team of advisors, and sourcing deals for them to review, both on and off market. The Lab has a $20 million fund to\u00a0provide minority equity checks if they find a mutual fit, and offers portfolio services including accounting\/finance and staffing.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Within 10 weeks of completing the lab, he had a letter of intent to buy Newark Auto, and closed another two months later.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">At the Lab, we help Acquisition Entrepreneurs\u00a0throughout their journey, via community and events, access to a dedicated team of advisors, by sourcing deals for them to review (both on and off market), via our $20M fund to\u00a0provide minority equity checks\u00a0in their deals if a mutual fit, and through our dedicated portfolio services (accounting\/finance and staffing.. focused on Acquisition Enterpeneurs explicitly). So net\/net we help acquisition entrepreneurs source, diligence, fund and operate their new business.\u00a0  <\/p>\n<p>          A personal guarantee and &#8220;burning the boats&#8221;         <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">What distinguishes Philips&#8217;s path from the MBA search-fund world is both the capital stack and the incentive structure. The search fund model \u2014 popularized at Stanford and Harvard \u2014 lets MBAs eventually own 20%\u201325% of a business, with institutional equity and no personal guarantee on the debt. They can be fired. The SBA model Philips used is different: 10% down, a personally guaranteed note on the remaining 90%, and 100% ownership. He frames the difference in terms borrowed from Noam Wasserman&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/0691158304?lv=shuf&amp;channelId=500&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback\" data-ylk=\"slk:The%20Founder&#039;s%20Dilemmas;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas;source:content-canvas%20default\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;The Founder&#039;s Dilemmas&quot;,&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yTrafficOrigin&quot;:&quot;content-canvas default&quot;}\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">The Founder&#8217;s Dilemmas<\/a>: the &#8220;king outcome&#8221; versus the &#8220;rich outcome.&#8221; He wanted to be king.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">&#8220;Once you buy the business, it is your business and no matter what skeletons are buried in the closet, you&#8217;re stuck with the thing,&#8221; he said, joking that it&#8217;s not like you can go to some &#8220;customer service counter&#8221; and return it if you don&#8217;t like what you find post-closing. That&#8217;s not the way venture capital works, he clarified, where investors expect a high failure rate and simply write off the capital if an idea doesn&#8217;t work. He described the SBA loan approach as something like &#8220;burning the boats&#8221; in warfare, or &#8220;taking out a mortgage on your own career.&#8221; You are on the hook for whatever happens next.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Philips insisted that no one should make that kind of bet without formal training. He tells younger would-be acquirers to read Buy Then Build, sit through the lab&#8217;s modules on search and diligence, and then reconsider whether they still want to proceed. &#8220;Getting training on how to do that right is so important,&#8221; he says.  <\/p>\n<p>   <a href=\"https:\/\/s.yimg.com\/lo\/mysterio\/api\/F543D1F055105D12193346B3725A8DA79B7CA4E3DD1A00185ADC2E220D41E601\/subgraphmysterio\/resizefit_w960;quality_80;format_webp\/https:%2F%2Fmedia.zenfs.com%2Fen%2Ffortune_175%2F0b042c02c74baacc1163ee9dbdd27f79\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/ywAAAAAAQABAAACAUwAOw==\" height=\"540\" width=\"960\" class=\"yf-j98iil loader\"\/><\/a>         Waking up at 4:30 a.m. to run a blue-collar business         <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">If his startup years were defined by pitch decks and investor updates, Philips&#8217; life now is defined by alarms and factory floors. He lives on the Upper West Side of Manhattan \u2014 on the same block where he grew up \u2014 commuting daily to Newark to oversee a manufacturing operation whose workers are on the line at 7:30 a.m.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">&#8220;I wake up between 4:30 and 5:30, and I&#8217;m in the office by 7, 7:30 every morning,&#8221; he said, adding that manufacturing &#8220;generally doesn&#8217;t work 9 to 5&#8221; and often runs 7:30 to 4 or multiple shifts.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Philips contrasted his environment with the perk-laden offices that many of his Northwestern peers inhabit. &#8220;The people who work for me do not have a background working at companies that provide foosball tables and free lunch every day.&#8221; Instead, he&#8217;s managing hourly workers who have spent their careers in plants and warehouses, and who care more about predictable schedules, overtime opportunities, and respectful supervisors than about kombucha on tap.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">He got a dog \u2014 a mini Bernedoodle he named Mabel \u2014 about a year into running the business. After all, running a small manufacturing company &#8220;can be quite lonely at the top.&#8221; All his friends from Northwestern are in tech, finance, or consulting; the ones he relates to most are in real estate, people who &#8220;eat what they kill.&#8221; His father always had a dog at the office, too, he said.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">One of his biggest surprises has been how much he enjoys &#8220;shaping a workplace for those people that is just better than what they&#8217;ve experienced in the past&#8221; and building a team dynamic in a context where benefits and culture look very different from a tech unicorn&#8217;s.  <\/p>\n<p>       Multiplying revenue \u2014 and delaying the 401(k)         <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Philips said he&#8217;s been able to grow revenue by folding in four additional, smaller businesses, integrating their operations into his factory, and reinvesting heavily in systems rather than pulling cash out for himself.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Unlike older buyers in their 40s and 50s who rely on cash flow to fund mortgages and college tuition, Philips has treated the business more like a compounding asset than a personal ATM. He said he has &#8220;had to invest in the business and not invest in my 401(k)&#8221; over the past few years, and at times his family has stepped in with capital to support integration work. &#8220;The business that I have now has the potential to grow far greater than the one that I bought five years ago, but I need to grow into that, and I&#8217;m 29, and that&#8217;s fine,&#8221; he added.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Philips is quick to push back on the idea that his story is a plug-and-play template for frustrated twenty-somethings who can&#8217;t land a corporate job. Some of the hardest parts of his job \u2014 like firing someone 30 years older than you who has been with the company longer than he has been alive \u2014 require emotional maturity and a tolerance for conflict that most early-career workers don&#8217;t yet have. People who disrespected him for being young, he said, didn&#8217;t last: &#8220;Once that person was no longer in the business, no one felt that way anymore.&#8221;  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">He&#8217;s talked to 22-year-olds who say they want to follow his path and said that makes him queasy. &#8220;I don&#8217;t know if I would recommend that they buy a business as their first thing,&#8221; he said. When strangers reach out, he routes them first to books and courses, then warns them about the personal guarantee and the possibility of bankruptcy if cash flows falter. He wants to make sure they are truly willing to burn the boats.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">His caution tracks with a broader reality: per the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lendingtree.com\/business\/small\/failure-rate\/\" data-ylk=\"slk:Bureau%20of%20Labor%20Statistics;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas;source:content-canvas%20default\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;Bureau of Labor Statistics&quot;,&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yTrafficOrigin&quot;:&quot;content-canvas default&quot;}\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Bureau of Labor Statistics<\/a>, roughly 20% of new businesses fail within their first year and about 40% within three years, making entrepreneurship a high-risk endeavor even without a personal guarantee. Layer SBA debt and a blue-collar workforce on top of that, and Philips argues that ETA becomes a niche path for a specific kind of operator \u2014 optimistic enough to push through, but sober enough to understand the stakes.  <\/p>\n<p>       AI in the back office, people on the shop floor         <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Philips is part of a micro-generation of founders as comfortable in an AI-enabled productivity suite as they are walking a factory floor. He said he spends much of his day in Claude Code building tools that help his team see their priorities, manage work orders, and reduce administrative friction. He also keeps a 1982 Porsche 911 for attending car shows \u2014 a professional necessity in his business, and a symbol of the lesson he learned in Oregon.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">But he&#8217;s adamant that AI won&#8217;t soon replace his stitchers and cutters. &#8220;I&#8217;m never going to have AI robots running my sewing machines,&#8221; he said. Newark Auto&#8217;s work is bespoke and varied: one day the shop is redoing seats for a vintage Porsche, the next for a newer model, the next for a <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/bmw-group\/\" data-ylk=\"slk:BMW;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas;source:content-canvas%20default\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;BMW&quot;,&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yTrafficOrigin&quot;:&quot;content-canvas default&quot;}\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">BMW<\/a> or Mercedes. To automate that, he&#8217;d have to convert an enormous library of product files into instructions for AI-driven machinery, a process he says would demand &#8220;tremendous resources&#8221; that neither he nor his competitors have. &#8220;AI is an enabler for us, but it&#8217;s not a substitute for any of my blue-collar workers.&#8221;  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">This story was originally featured on <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2026\/08\/02\/its-really-not-for-the-faint-of-heart-this-29-year-old-ceo-became-a-business-owner-doubled-revenue-in-3-years-and-learned-what-car-not-to-drive\/\" data-ylk=\"slk:Fortune.com;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas;source:content-canvas%20default\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;Fortune.com&quot;,&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yTrafficOrigin&quot;:&quot;content-canvas default&quot;}\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Fortune.com<\/a>  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Not all of the lessons in the Walker Deibel playbook fit between its covers. 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