It was shattered for me so long ago I can’t remember exactly when. Was it when they ruled to entangle church and state? Or was it when they invented fake cases to judge against? Oh wait – maybe it happened when it was brought to light that they routinely accept luxury “gifts” from billionaires. As fucked up as those are however, I don’t think anything compares to their damnation of women and girls in the overturning of Roe v Wade.
I guess that exonerating rich white criminal rapists seems like a logical next step though doesn’t it.
>We’ve Been Entertaining an Illusion About the Supreme Court.
Who is “we”? Speak for yourself. Many of us have been disillusioned for a while now.
Now is the breaking point?!?
Pfft!
Lol.
This is the straw???
The SCOTUS has been like this for years.
What we’re seeing here is the end of a long road that started back in 2000.
So lets ask the Horror-Future hypothetical: IF the SC rules that a President can do w/e they want as long as they are not impeached during their term; then what should Biden do? Should he continue the status quo, and hope Trump doesn’t win the election. Or go full Ceaser to “save” the US from the Christian fascist. That’s a question I never thought I would have to ask, but here we are.
Anyone who has read SCOTUS history knows it has been a political body since its inception. This “great men, thinking great thoughts, in the purity of the law” nonsense is just that, nonsense. Go read Dred Scott
*yes, women also now, but for the longest time….
The we is “the media”.
The real we had known already
Back in early 2017 I convinced myself we’d be OK because SCOTUS would save our rule of law. Maybe it was a coping mechanism or just wishful thinking. Yes, the illusion has been eroding but now it’s so clearly and completely shattered. So difficult to find hope these days.
Who’s we? Ya gotta mouse in your pocket?
So what’s the recourse? I guess we end up balkanizing as I don’t think certain states are up to becoming part of a dictatorship where the head of state can do whatever he (these folks will never have a woman be dictator) wants to do.
There’s more than one way to dismantle a democracy. Who thought the freedoms of American democracy could so easily be usurped?
There may come a day when the federal law enforcement agencies and the nations militaries are required to make a choice as to whether they believe in the American Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
As a Canadian, it’s been difficult to watch the devolution that has taken place since Trump the dumpster has entered the political scene. I cannot imagine the same happening here. At first everyone laughed! Many of us, myself included have a great deal of relatives, friends and family living in the U.S.
Anyone who thinks and is following this, knows exactly where it is heading and The Dumpster has even alluded to it publicly. If you think he’s kidding, he’s not. A massive ego such as his only knows one desire – complete power and invulnerability.
It’s been shattered for 4-8 years. And was broken nearly 25 years ago. I don’t understand why main stream media hasn’t realized it until now.
Bush v Gore, Citizens United, Dobb, Heller, McConnell and lets not forget Ginni Thomas, paid expensive trips, homes paid off for judges parents and it just keeps going….
The Supreme Court is now a Republican ideological check on the country. They will invent legal concepts from whole cloth to make sure the Republican agenda is advanced.
So if they defend trump as immune that means Biden can assassinate trump with seal team 6…. Right? Like, don’t they see what they are doing?!
I mean, if you didn’t know watching Kavanagh perjure himself live on TV, what’ll it take to convince you?
I went to law school 10-15 years and even back then I felt like I was being gaslit about the level of reverence we should hold for the Supreme Court.
Trump and Covid shattered so many illusions.
So, if they rule that presidents are immune from prosecution for official acts, doesn’t that mean that, hypothetically, Biden could declare all of the male justices traitors and have them assassinated with impunity?
Bush v Gore did it for most of us
It was shattered years ago. It’s only “finally” if you weren’t already paying attention
Fuck RBG. We’re in this mess in no small part from her refusal to retire when Obama was president. She fucked the US with her hubris.
Does SCOTUS realise that if Trump returns to the Oval Office with their justification for heinous acts, they could be targeted too if non compliant to his wishes?
Who is this “we”? Most of us realized the SCOTUS was a joke from the moment that McConnell stole a seat and they started stacking the court with partisan hacks that openly take bribes. Any doubt was removed when they decided Stare Decisis was no longer a thing.
Yet again I have to bring up how RBG for all the good she did has a direct hand in this disaster. She could’ve retired during the Obama administration and secured a liberal spot for decades. But she hung on too long and because of that, this crazy court feels emboldened to shove a whacko agenda down the throats of American citizens. She does not deserve a pass on this — it should be her legacy.
Ok, so if the Supreme Court rules the president can indeed break the law with impunity, what’s to stop Biden from paying someone to murder Trump and then pardon them? Other than the fact that Biden just genuinely seems to be a good person I guess. That’s probably the crux of it though, Republicans will absolutely use this to commit some very sadistic crimes to gain ultimate power. Where as democrats will continue to operate in good faith thinking they’re playing by the same rules.
Clarence Thomas’s bribe taking was reported in the early 2000s. For reasons that I have never understood, it was ignored by Democrats and by the public. Slate should have been running these articles 20 years ago.
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We? Some of us have been there for years.
It was shattered for me so long ago I can’t remember exactly when. Was it when they ruled to entangle church and state? Or was it when they invented fake cases to judge against? Oh wait – maybe it happened when it was brought to light that they routinely accept luxury “gifts” from billionaires. As fucked up as those are however, I don’t think anything compares to their damnation of women and girls in the overturning of Roe v Wade.
I guess that exonerating rich white criminal rapists seems like a logical next step though doesn’t it.
>We’ve Been Entertaining an Illusion About the Supreme Court.
Who is “we”? Speak for yourself. Many of us have been disillusioned for a while now.
Now is the breaking point?!?
Pfft!
Lol.
This is the straw???
The SCOTUS has been like this for years.
What we’re seeing here is the end of a long road that started back in 2000.
So lets ask the Horror-Future hypothetical: IF the SC rules that a President can do w/e they want as long as they are not impeached during their term; then what should Biden do? Should he continue the status quo, and hope Trump doesn’t win the election. Or go full Ceaser to “save” the US from the Christian fascist. That’s a question I never thought I would have to ask, but here we are.
Anyone who has read SCOTUS history knows it has been a political body since its inception. This “great men, thinking great thoughts, in the purity of the law” nonsense is just that, nonsense. Go read Dred Scott
*yes, women also now, but for the longest time….
The we is “the media”.
The real we had known already
Back in early 2017 I convinced myself we’d be OK because SCOTUS would save our rule of law. Maybe it was a coping mechanism or just wishful thinking. Yes, the illusion has been eroding but now it’s so clearly and completely shattered. So difficult to find hope these days.
Who’s we? Ya gotta mouse in your pocket?
So what’s the recourse? I guess we end up balkanizing as I don’t think certain states are up to becoming part of a dictatorship where the head of state can do whatever he (these folks will never have a woman be dictator) wants to do.
There’s more than one way to dismantle a democracy. Who thought the freedoms of American democracy could so easily be usurped?
There may come a day when the federal law enforcement agencies and the nations militaries are required to make a choice as to whether they believe in the American Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
As a Canadian, it’s been difficult to watch the devolution that has taken place since Trump the dumpster has entered the political scene. I cannot imagine the same happening here. At first everyone laughed! Many of us, myself included have a great deal of relatives, friends and family living in the U.S.
Anyone who thinks and is following this, knows exactly where it is heading and The Dumpster has even alluded to it publicly. If you think he’s kidding, he’s not. A massive ego such as his only knows one desire – complete power and invulnerability.
It’s been shattered for 4-8 years. And was broken nearly 25 years ago. I don’t understand why main stream media hasn’t realized it until now.
Bush v Gore, Citizens United, Dobb, Heller, McConnell and lets not forget Ginni Thomas, paid expensive trips, homes paid off for judges parents and it just keeps going….
The Supreme Court is now a Republican ideological check on the country. They will invent legal concepts from whole cloth to make sure the Republican agenda is advanced.
So if they defend trump as immune that means Biden can assassinate trump with seal team 6…. Right? Like, don’t they see what they are doing?!
I mean, if you didn’t know watching Kavanagh perjure himself live on TV, what’ll it take to convince you?
I went to law school 10-15 years and even back then I felt like I was being gaslit about the level of reverence we should hold for the Supreme Court.
Trump and Covid shattered so many illusions.
So, if they rule that presidents are immune from prosecution for official acts, doesn’t that mean that, hypothetically, Biden could declare all of the male justices traitors and have them assassinated with impunity?
Bush v Gore did it for most of us
It was shattered years ago. It’s only “finally” if you weren’t already paying attention
Fuck RBG. We’re in this mess in no small part from her refusal to retire when Obama was president. She fucked the US with her hubris.
Does SCOTUS realise that if Trump returns to the Oval Office with their justification for heinous acts, they could be targeted too if non compliant to his wishes?
Who is this “we”? Most of us realized the SCOTUS was a joke from the moment that McConnell stole a seat and they started stacking the court with partisan hacks that openly take bribes. Any doubt was removed when they decided Stare Decisis was no longer a thing.
Yet again I have to bring up how RBG for all the good she did has a direct hand in this disaster. She could’ve retired during the Obama administration and secured a liberal spot for decades. But she hung on too long and because of that, this crazy court feels emboldened to shove a whacko agenda down the throats of American citizens. She does not deserve a pass on this — it should be her legacy.
Ok, so if the Supreme Court rules the president can indeed break the law with impunity, what’s to stop Biden from paying someone to murder Trump and then pardon them? Other than the fact that Biden just genuinely seems to be a good person I guess. That’s probably the crux of it though, Republicans will absolutely use this to commit some very sadistic crimes to gain ultimate power. Where as democrats will continue to operate in good faith thinking they’re playing by the same rules.
Clarence Thomas’s bribe taking was reported in the early 2000s. For reasons that I have never understood, it was ignored by Democrats and by the public. Slate should have been running these articles 20 years ago.
From 2004: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-dec-31-na-gifts31-story.html
>We’ve Been Entertaining an Illusion About the Supreme Court.
We haven’t though, not for several years now. Definitely not since Roe was overturned, but I’d say not since the 2000 election.