There was nothing wrong with driveways. Im looking to buy a house and refuse to buy any of the new builds without parking.
It’s not just new estates. I live in an estate that’s 35-40 years old. I’d bet when it was built less than half of the houses had a car and now most have 2 or sometimes 3/4 if adult children are still living at home. Parking is crazy, most driveways can only take one car and getting in and out of driveways is a challenge because of all the cars parked on the street. People are considerate but sometimes they will block others in and you have to go calling to houses to get their car moved if you want to get out.
The fuckin neck of them putting cones out on a public road and damaging cars with stickers.
It will also deter people from buying electric vehicles if they can’t charge them at home.
And it’s only going to get worse, with the garden shed planning legislation.
> The adjoining Two Oaks development contains 590 apartments and houses, but just 459 parking spaces
This is insane policy. I live in a new estate and plenty of houses have one parking space, but have 3 or 4 cars (work vans etc). I’ve one neighbour who owns one space and has 5 cars.
Typical. Let’s force people to use public transport, but let’s build the necessary infrastructure later.
It’s beyond ridiculous this push to fill more houses into smaller lots.
Relative bought a gaf recently absolutely huge estate but the roads have been built to not allow any parking except for driveways they are asking the builders if there’s any hope of guest parking spots as there is another 20 homes to be built and already congestion on the street people just park anyway turning the place into one lane and this is exactly what the government pushed for yet no backup plan for better public transport
Lot to be said for copying Japan, if you can’t prove you can legally park a car then you can’t have one.
We’re far too accepting of illegal parking.
Better question is why are there so many cars even there, when the entire development is flanked by bus routes, and has a train station on either end?
How come this guy can make the reference to a fear of fist fights breaking out, but when I did it a few years ago I was downvoted to hell?
At the time, there was someone stabbed out in Tallaght over a car parking space. Fair enough that I think the lady had some preexisting mental health issues apparently, but the point still stood: a lot of heat over car parking.
There is a big, big mismatch between the people planning for the use of space in this country, and how people are actually wanting to use the space.
It’s an ideological face-off.
No one is giving in. And as a result there are cars being thrown up on paths, and people parking where they want to park, and telling visitors to park in spaces otherwise used for residents.
There are also residents claiming car parking spaces they don’t actually own. These are basically spaces assigned to them for use, but they act like they own them and normally call them “my space” in Whatsapp groups.
These spaces technically belong to everyone in an OMC and not many people know that. What developers do is (1) sell the house with “access” to a car parking space (2) control the OMC to make sure access continues until the developer is ready to exit, and (3) Then have the council take the estate in charge once all houses/apartments are sold; exit the OMC; leave it to the residents; and then WHAM, the residents do what? They do what everyone knows they will do: they take over these communal spaces and no longer assign them as available to the people using them the last few years.
Stressful for those who probably had been using them for a few years. Even more stressful if they installed a charger, as now someone is getting free charging at the expense of that household and there is sweet fxck all they can do about it, as they are already in the shit for installing it, such that they cannot further interfere with the pathway to remove it without permission.
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There was nothing wrong with driveways. Im looking to buy a house and refuse to buy any of the new builds without parking.
It’s not just new estates. I live in an estate that’s 35-40 years old. I’d bet when it was built less than half of the houses had a car and now most have 2 or sometimes 3/4 if adult children are still living at home. Parking is crazy, most driveways can only take one car and getting in and out of driveways is a challenge because of all the cars parked on the street. People are considerate but sometimes they will block others in and you have to go calling to houses to get their car moved if you want to get out.
The fuckin neck of them putting cones out on a public road and damaging cars with stickers.
It will also deter people from buying electric vehicles if they can’t charge them at home.
And it’s only going to get worse, with the garden shed planning legislation.
> The adjoining Two Oaks development contains 590 apartments and houses, but just 459 parking spaces
This is insane policy. I live in a new estate and plenty of houses have one parking space, but have 3 or 4 cars (work vans etc). I’ve one neighbour who owns one space and has 5 cars.
Typical. Let’s force people to use public transport, but let’s build the necessary infrastructure later.
It’s beyond ridiculous this push to fill more houses into smaller lots.
Relative bought a gaf recently absolutely huge estate but the roads have been built to not allow any parking except for driveways they are asking the builders if there’s any hope of guest parking spots as there is another 20 homes to be built and already congestion on the street people just park anyway turning the place into one lane and this is exactly what the government pushed for yet no backup plan for better public transport
Lot to be said for copying Japan, if you can’t prove you can legally park a car then you can’t have one.
We’re far too accepting of illegal parking.
Better question is why are there so many cars even there, when the entire development is flanked by bus routes, and has a train station on either end?
How come this guy can make the reference to a fear of fist fights breaking out, but when I did it a few years ago I was downvoted to hell?
At the time, there was someone stabbed out in Tallaght over a car parking space. Fair enough that I think the lady had some preexisting mental health issues apparently, but the point still stood: a lot of heat over car parking.
There is a big, big mismatch between the people planning for the use of space in this country, and how people are actually wanting to use the space.
It’s an ideological face-off.
No one is giving in. And as a result there are cars being thrown up on paths, and people parking where they want to park, and telling visitors to park in spaces otherwise used for residents.
There are also residents claiming car parking spaces they don’t actually own. These are basically spaces assigned to them for use, but they act like they own them and normally call them “my space” in Whatsapp groups.
These spaces technically belong to everyone in an OMC and not many people know that. What developers do is (1) sell the house with “access” to a car parking space (2) control the OMC to make sure access continues until the developer is ready to exit, and (3) Then have the council take the estate in charge once all houses/apartments are sold; exit the OMC; leave it to the residents; and then WHAM, the residents do what? They do what everyone knows they will do: they take over these communal spaces and no longer assign them as available to the people using them the last few years.
Stressful for those who probably had been using them for a few years. Even more stressful if they installed a charger, as now someone is getting free charging at the expense of that household and there is sweet fxck all they can do about it, as they are already in the shit for installing it, such that they cannot further interfere with the pathway to remove it without permission.
Whole thing is a mess.